Lions Meltdown, Chiefs Never Left & Baltimore Orioles Have Been Sold | Episode 135

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episode 135 of Chaotic Lint On It. We are big championship weekend. Sad tunes. Very sad. Very sad indeed. The ravens go down pretty, I don't even know what to say, pretty ugly I guess is the right term. I'm glad that I'm

I'm on camera last week with my picks because actually at the last minute, you know, my blog, I changed it, but then I was like, ah, she probably shouldn't have done that. And I'm glad that we, we have a video footage of me saying, take the road teams to cover. I thought we were looking at a Chiefs Lions Superbowl, the way it was shaping up. But I had the Chiefs and the Niners before the year. And it, I mean, I guess the NFL can't be upset with this matchup.

Right. I mean, we're upset with it because we just saw it a few years ago and we've seen my homes every year. I mean, think about this. So with the Chiefs now going to the Super Bowl four times in five years, in the last 23 years, two teams have covered 13 of those Super Bowls in the AFC. Patriots went to nine. Brady went to another at the NFC, but Patriots went to nine. Chiefs have now gone to four. Rathausberger and Manning covered what? Seven?

And then Burrow, Flacco and Rich began, if you can remember back to 2002, the year after Brady won his first. So, um, I don't know what it is. I just, I mean, we'll get into it. I know, but I just, uh, I kind of had a feel in the AFC. The AFC has just never been good enough to catch up to these, these super teams, but like these dynasty teams. The Patriots, it seemed like the only resistance they ever really had was Manning, not even Rathausberger. He won when.

He didn't have to face Brady. Burrow has been the only guy that's been able to take down the homes or only active guy in the entire NFL that's beaten the homes at this point. So, uh, here we are. Niners. Doesn't it just feel to you like the Niners have no chance? I don't know why. It just feels, I know that's not true. Yeah. Um, well, I think, I feel like this is almost like the Niners are more team of destiny.

and the Chiefs are. I mean, the Lions felt like the team of destiny. Like that's kind of what it felt like going into Sunday. They go off 24-7. They're like, oh, they're going to roll. Right. And then we saw it happen. Dan Campbell made some really dumb mistakes. You called that. Yeah. And at the, I mean, honestly, I've been like really mulling it over. And I was like, you built the house with this. Can't be shocked when it burns down with the same material. But that's what you build the house with. And you kind of have to.

I was watching with a friend, Lions fan, at least he's been consistent, right? He didn't stray from what he's been doing all year, but there were two instances where he egregiously did not kick a field goal. The first one when it was, actually he did the right thing initially. When it was 21-7 before the half, they had a chance to maybe go up 28-7. That was the right thing. They went into the half with a three-score lead, Diners get a field goal in the opening drive, and then they're in rain. I mean,

These days, inside the 30 is anybody's range, including Michael Baxley. Didn't kick it, could have been 27 to 10. We don't know if Baxley makes it, but good chance he makes it. Then the Niners score a couple times, it's 27 to 24, then it would have been 27 all. And he's down there again, and you have a chance to kick the field goal to tie the game. That one, to me, is more inexcusable. Can understand a little bit, oh, we wanna push the envelope, try to go up one. And I don't know what it is. It just seems like...

So whenever the Patriots won, I would see like some guy on the other team, a goat, not the good goat, the goat, like we used to talk about goats, the Cubs, Billy goat. It was Billy Conda from the Evans-Warner here. I remember that. He's a Ravens fan. Say flowers this year. And then on the other side, it was Josh Reynolds. Two huge droughts passes. So you can put it on Campbell. You can't put it on Goff. I thought Goff played a really good game. Did miss that one.

throw that could have made it 28-7. Probably the one throw he wants back in the game. But Reynolds, man, those two drops. One was on fourth and two, and then the other was wide open on third and 10. It's just, you just, you have just a crushing day for the Ravens fans and for the Lions fans. And then for it to be against, because if it was against two of the games that were like the Ra- Like if it was like against the Bills, or if it was the Lions against maybe like Green Bay, you're like, yeah, it stinks, but

it's-

You know, both teams are kind of coming to the same place, but it's, it's the chiefs and the freaking Niners. Chiefs have been in four, in the last six championship games, four out of the last five Super Bowls, and Niners were in the fourth NFC championship game in five years. This is the eighth Super Bowl of franchise history. And it's like, it kind of can't get more ill than this in my opinion. The, so I, this was so live. The way to lose. So live.

So Bills still. And Bills, yeah. I mean, the Bills lose to the And they lose to the Gold every year. But it all, again, like the team at Destiny, it felt like the Lions were destined to win this game because their last road playoff line was against the 49ers in 1957 at KZ. And the last time they were in the conference, two championship games, they also lost to the Niners. In 93, 92, there was a real line out there as well. I know, yeah.

Yeah, but just

I mean, obviously it's not as perfect of a game just because of the way it happened. Well, and obviously in franchise history, the Ravens have never been in this spot, but you know, it felt like this was the year where the field was open for RTA with Destiny. I mean, I know the Chiefs are a three seed, but who cares? They just had a couple of letdown games in the season. People have opined on Twitter and such that...

You know, there are a few drops, a point drop passes away from 14 and three easily. Tony's off sides against the Bills. Tony drops a pass, it turns into a pick six against the Lions, and Valdez, Scantling, that PI that didn't get, I mean, they were like this close to, you know, maybe being 14 and three. So the whole, oh, they were three seed on the road, God forbid, no other teams are ready to go on the road.

Alliance or not that the Ravens are team of destiny, but maybe the Bills Maybe even Cleveland we were talking about Cleveland for the playoffs or even Houston I was gonna say they also just retain their offensive coordinator That was maybe 20 minutes ago Ryan Bobby slow except he is saying the same thing with Ben Johnson staying in Detroit Which was really big for Washington. We won't talk coaches Yeah Let's I guess before we jump into the

major announcement regarding the chaotic main talent table capacity. Officially, sources are telling me, my sources are telling me that we do have a venue. We officially have a venue for all six weeks with elite motherboards, elite ranch. They will be hosting us, gracious hosts. So just a little something to keep in the back here of the listeners' mind. Figured we'd do that on top of the show, but let's jump into these

games.

So Kansas City defeat the Baltimore Ravens 17-10 in a defensive slugfest. Uh, Kansas City didn't score a point in the entire second half and Baltimore only scored three in the fourth quarter. Kansas City, I think, given up three total four quarter points all post season. Two, which is insane. I don't know if that's 100% right, but quote me on that. No, it is. It's under 10. No, it's- Bills were shut in the fourth quarter last week. Ravens only got three on Sunday.

Uh, almost Miami got their touchdown early. It was 26-7, you know? So, um, yes. And if it feels like, I, I feel like I've seen this before that's because 20 years ago, I actually went to a Chiefs Ravens game that ended 17 to 10 Chiefs. It was Dante Hall running a kickoff back 97 yards. And it was a little easier to stomach back then because first of all, it's a regular season and second of all, the Chiefs were, they were like, well, actually, I actually liked the Chiefs.

Priest Holmes, I watched those teams, Priest Holmes, Raven, but man, it's like we talked about last week, the narrative has totally changed with this, this Chiefs team and, um, the Ravens, they did what, see, they did what I thought, the one thing I thought they wouldn't do would be beat themselves. Like if you told me, you know, Kansas City just beat them, I mean, they beat them obviously, and then the Good and Fair and Square, there was plenty of controversy. Um, but the Ravens, they did things to beat themselves.

Normally, just even going back over the years, they were always so good matching up with the old Patriots, the new Patriots, they were always good at matching up with those teams because they were disciplined, you know, and they didn't beat themselves. And my God, like flowers. Well, I don't know. So what do you think sports, the taunting or the fumble when he could have had a, it would have been first and gold, the one second and eight at the nine. So the fumble, if he just goes down and says, okay, I don't need to get in the end zone here, just get a first and goal. We're going to score.

I'm not sure which was worse, but they both cost a lot of money. Um, I, I don't really blame a lot of writers trying to make it work. Right. Because you're in the heat of the moment. You see the end zone. You're like, if I score here, that's going to be really big for us. Especially maybe it's a championship. I don't blame them for that. That's right. The taunting was unacceptable. And people, first off, we have to remember the rest of the looking at this in real time as well. Yeah. And that was one of the, the

Leonardo.

like there it is you see that moment you see when he shoves him down yeah every person I was watching the game with they go taunting like everyone starts screaming and even if you're talking about it and again I think the problem with social media is that we will see every single slow-mo every single angle and they go look this no that's it that's not what it is it was a haunting is like

Congress defines play. You see it? You know it when you say it. You can't define it, you just don't. You know it when you say it. And that was like, to me that was really daunting and some people would try and say he was grabbing on to it. Maybe he was grabbing on to it, but it was more he split second. Yeah. Maybe he grabbed, they were tangled up, he made a tackle. If players were doing that every time somebody grabs a leg in a play, every time somebody is tangled up.

It would be, I mean, it would look like the city of Detroit, just constant fighting all the time. I mean, that, and that was specifically taught to him. Now, I think he gets up, he doesn't spin the ball, he doesn't stand over him after the shove. Maybe the ref said, all right, we'll let it go. But he gets up, spins the ball, stands over him while apparently they were in hurry up, which they were, they were trying to get up to the ball. And somebody, people will try and justify it saying, oh, he was just trying to get up.

because they were in hurry up, then don't spin the ball if you're in hurry up. Don't stand over them if you're in hurry up offense. That's not what you do. We talked Chase Clayton over that last year against the Vikings on third and I put, what was it last year, two years ago? Either way. Yeah, right. Now I've never played real football and I'm much older than Zay Flowers and I'm just sitting here so this is easier to say, but how was your first instinct not to just be

like,

Awesome. We got a big play. Like, run back. Let's go do it again. We're getting close. Like, how are you not just caught up in the excitement? Why is your first reaction? Now, I get it. Look, guys are talking smack. I understand. And there's that kind of machismo, bravado a little bit, you know, but I don't know how after you, this is for the Ravens, was the 19th game they played. It's the 20th game that you said, how do you not think, my God, like we.

everything we do has to be focused on winning here. And so, you know, some of this, right. And there was like, cause Van Noy, who's supposed to be the veteran presence with multiple Super Bowl rings, he had a taunting, was a personal foul late in the first half. It was one of the two that they had on the drive that let the Chiefs get a field goal, which was big just before the half. And, you know, they always catch the second guy. But again, Van Noy has been in the league so long.

Why?

even do that. Just, if anything, just turn to the ref and say, Hey, you know, pulling paddle on them or something, right? Maybe you get the call, maybe you don't, but at least you don't get a penalty. And they just, I don't know. I mean, if you go back, we were just talking before we started about the Justin Tucker thing with the, were the Ravens rattled by the Chiefs? Were they really incriminated? Because they were never, at least with this Chiefs iteration, Ravens have not matched up at all. They played them five times.

And even the one game they won was incredibly lucky. It was a late Edward Zellare football. Just for whatever reason, the Hollins has just been able to have, not for whatever reason, a great quarterback, but whatever reason, the Ravens, they always seem to play their worst games against the Chiefs. A lot of teams do, but it just seems like a bad matchup. I think also, the Ravens seem young. I mean, I would say they're pretty young. Lamar is, he's the quarterback now. Yeah. He obviously

got his draw goal.

It did seem like the moment was too big for them now. But I think this was good. This was really good for the future of the organization. You get playoff experience, you get to know what it's like to be a favorite and lose. Maybe they can go in next year and be an underdog and win. Or they'll know what it's like to be the favorite. I'll say we're going to prepare differently. We're not going to focus on all this like happy bullshit. We're celebrating everything. We're going to try. We're not going to try and rattle them mentally.

large up. That was the Bill Wellich act. Think. Do your job. That's always been the problem. Yeah, and you know, there's so many themes that are just repeating themselves from the New England era here with Kansas City. And one of them, it's always coaching, right? Andy Rees, Al Fox, whoever he's... The Ravens, you know, they were treating this game like they were in a

massive hole.

the whole time, so much so that they're running backs or not even the running back. They're two running backs combined, combined and carry the ball six times the entire game. Jackson had eight carries. They flowers had two carries. Gus Edwards, three for 20 actually had a, they actually had a 15 yard run and Justice Hill three carries, three yards. The Ravens were in like a panicked hurry up mode the entire game. Now I understand because I think they set.

from those first two drives that she came out and scored, that it was gonna be one of those games, but they should have figured that their defense was going to settle in eventually, and it did. And I think it changed what the Chiefs did, the Chiefs started to go into more of like a game management mode, thinking, okay, well, this is all we need to do. And now the Ravens start to get panicked, okay, now the Chiefs are gonna run in clock, and we're in hurry up, we gotta hustle. And it just, the Ravens didn't run the...

I mean, it's just been such a theme for these teams. Everybody just gets scared and then they run it. On the other side, Kansas City had, I mean, Pacheco had 24 carries himself. Yeah, well, Lamar- Four times as much as two running backs after the Ravens. Lamar seemed scared to run the ball. Yeah. He really did. I mean, there were times he's sitting in the pocket and just running around and running around to the end. Right. And I can't tell you how I feel about sitting with a Chiefs fan and I-

I wanted the Chiefs to lose because I was trying to get under the skin and I don't want to see the Chiefs in the Super Bowl again. Right. And I was going, run the fucking ball. Run. Like there's a certain point in the play where I think almost everyone, even the defense and the offense and the coaches, everyone says, all right, you've got to just run now. There's no reason to try and extend this way. Yeah. And you just wouldn't, you wouldn't do it. And normally he does. And how much do you think that might be?

You know, all the talk all week was this is Lamar's legacy game, right? He's got a chance to beat the Holmes, he goes to the Super Bowl, you know, three posties and wins now under his belt. And I almost wonder if that in his head, he said, if I run, that's just what everyone expects me to do. And I have to pass, I have to be a pocket faster to show that I can do that. I just wonder how many times that thought was in his head when he absolutely could take it off and run.

Yeah, it's, um, it just, it felt like the Ravens were mentally handicapped in this game. It is astounding to see, but you know, I'm also coming at it from a Ravens fan that watched those older teams with all the veterans and all the grit and the swagger and the experience, those teams that would go every year. And even though the Ravens and the Lamars played in some postseason games, that, you know,

The Ravens aren't like the savvy, you know, we're in it every year kind of. Like last year they go with Cuntley and the year before they don't make it with Jackson and the year before they're playing with really limited fans. And it just, I don't know, this team, it's right. The moment was too big for the Ravens and Harbaugh and his coaching staff got out of what they had been doing all year. Credit to the Chiefs, their defense. I mean, it's just, we don't talk about it enough.

It's a record now in one season to have gone this many games, not giving up more than 27. And you're holding teams to 7, 24, and 10 in the postseason. I mean, that's the, that's the frightening thing because you always say, oh, matching chiefs had a good defense. Now they have a really good defense. What do you even, where do you go as a team? Because it feels like

kind of everything's there, right? I mean, most of the pieces you need to be a championship contender are there. I think as a complete outsider, I'm a Ravens fan. I know this hurts, but this, again, this is not bad. Obviously it sucks to look at, it really sucks to look at, but you're a young person. I don't think you have really had to do much training. I don't know, I mean, Zay Flowers, I don't know how confident they are in OBJ right now, future-wise. I want to get their weapons.

maybe draft the young three and work under Andrews. Andrews has trouble staying healthy defensively. I mean, you guys didn't get in help with the Chiefs 17-6. Yeah, I mean, those first two drives though, just it was just writing how. And remember the Chiefs kind of let them off the hook after the script sack. They went for it on fourth down, which again, that we always can take the points. I was surprised the Chiefs didn't do that because they do that, you know, it's maybe it's a different outcome in the end anyway. So.

Um, yeah, I mean, defensively, they made a lot of adjustments. They just didn't make enough adjustments offensively. Um, I'm going to read off here. One quarterback, they were 20 for 31, 267. Their defense gave up 31 points. Another quarterback, 20 for 37, 272. Their defense gave up 17 points. Right. Yeah. Before we jump to the.

Brock, for you, more gems. I wanted to say just one more thing on flowers. I think the Ravens do need to, you know, they need to beef up their receiving corps for sure. I remember hearing about this. I think this was, I think this was in reference to, I think it was 2017 Patriots,

to try to get in and would have given the Steelers 40 lead with about 30 seconds left. They ended up overturning, there was a lot of controversy, the Patriots ended up getting one seed instead of Pittsburgh that year. They went on to win the AFC and Pittsburgh lost to Jacksonville. And I remember, actually I remember random story about that week running into Ben Watson at a restaurant in Baltimore. I actually asked about it.

He was a man of the year. He had a really good career. I said, you think the guy, and he said, no, I don't think the guy. And, you know, he said, just it happens. Right. And then I was watching something and I don't, I forget how it came up or where I saw it, but it was that Bill Belichick would specifically coach guys to never extend the ball like that at the goal line. The fear of what happened is a flower. You know, so much of what the Patriots did on those years was situational football.

What bothered me most about the Flowers humble, if that's fourth in gold, by all means, you sell out kind of straight, maybe even third in gold because you don't want to get the fourth down. It was second and seventh from the eight yard line, meaning that if Flowers goes down at the one yard line, it's first in gold, Ravens have three, probably four plays to punch the ball in the end zone, their running game in line, in a large accent. It, it's like that.

Maybe that's.

not even on Flowers himself, it's on somebody in the middle or it's on one of the coaches to say, here's the thing, you know the player, right? Not like he's, not just like, he wasn't aware of it, he was like, you should be ready. You have to be ready for that. To just hold the ball, and he was diving, you can see, I think he started to reach out and like, go one. Not even the half yard line, it's he got it, and you can see, it starts to come out when you're not about the half yard line. And I just, it's those things that...

New England and Alcantara City seem to benefit from all the time. And it's those things that if you're a coach, if you're a player, especially going against a team where you have no margin for error, those are the things you have to, you have to almost envision all these crazy scenarios in your head beforehand so that you don't lose a football game on them. I think it would, I feel like this would hurt more, because these are, these are learning moments.

especially number one, he's never been in a hole like this before. Right. So, yeah. Hey look, he had a great, he had a touchdown early, he had that big play before the taunt, unfortunately the taunt that came after that. I mean he had five for 115. Yeah. That's a great, I feel like he's a great taunt because of the taunt and the fumble. He's gonna eat. But for a rookie wide receiver against arguably like one of the best, or the best defenses in the league.

and probably the best single cornerback who's about to be a free agent. Who's coming to Coles. I hope so. Probably leaves the game. But Flowers had one less yard than Kelsey on fewer than half of the many catches. So he, yeah, I think most probably did what he needed to do. But again, where were the other receivers? Aguilar had one big catch for

39.

Justice Hill 4-34 Beckham 3-22. Right, and Beckham, they couldn't connect on a few of those long throws, and Beckham wanted a flag. Maybe there was one that was close, but nothing egregious. I just, I thought we'd see Andrews and Lightley more involved. Two catches for Andrews, two catches for Lightley. I understand Andrews not playing as involved in the first game. Lamar, Lamar had a better average than Justice Hill, Odell Beckham Jr.

Isaiah likely Mark Andrews and Rashad Bateman. He had a better yards per reception than those guys. Yeah. And it's crazy to think about that play and then think about last week in the Bills game where the Bills fumbled at the goal line. Of course, the Chiefs fumbled at the goal line. And that wasn't quite the same. It wasn't almost an extending the ball, he was just rolling over. But like in both games, it looked like, oh, there were a couple of breaks that he thought maybe it's your day.

And it's like you said, but nothing's ever do nothing's ever defined against the Chiefs. Yeah, they just say Yeah

back then when they started dating and they died down. Which is like, or, I blame the media at one point. It's gonna die down after the Super Bowl. Or if he retires, yeah. Yeah, or if he retires. I almost think if he retires, it's gonna fall. There's gonna be so much more because he doesn't have to play football. What if someone offered you either the Chiefs could win this game but the Cal Phil would retire and we wouldn't have to deal with them anymore. Or they lose but you got to see them play a couple more years.

probably see the Chiefs in another one or two Super Bowls. I would probably just take the win next call, get him out of there. I'm kind of 50-50 when it comes to that because I do enjoy watching really great teams or something like this, like watching those Patriots team do that. Like I can sit and like when I think about when Brady won the Super Bowl with the Bucks, I was like, that's like a moment in history that I got to witness. Like in football history, we're gonna come back to this one soon.

Brady beat Mahomes, he never lost to the GOAT, you know, maybe the second GOAT by the time I'm old and thinking about football. Right, right, right. And I enjoy stuff like that. I mean, obviously, like me as a football fan, I'm like, oh, the Colts. I'm already preparing myself for the Colts to host the AFC Championship next year because Anthony Richardson, I'm just going in my head. I'm like, oh, well, Jason Kelsey is going to be our offensive line coach and AJ Brown is going to come to the Colts because of Shane Steichen. But Jerry Snead, he's going to be like a...

I'm going through that, but watching this Chiefs team and see them do this is both annoying and painful and all that shit. But at the same time it's like, wow, this is really awesome to be able to witness a second dynasty like this. Something so impressive. Where this guy just, he just doesn't lose. I mean, he just doesn't. He's never lost in a visual round game. He has the same amount of layoff wins as Peyton Manning at this very moment.

this 14-3 playoff teams in his career, right? Manning was 14-13. Manning played for 18 years. 18 years. How long has this played for? Six. And he's already won. I mean, that's just interesting. He's played for 14 years.

You get three.

Yeah, obviously. I think it's, it's got to be, like, you can't, but if you think about it, you, he'll have one three Superbowl. So he doesn't have Belichick on that. Conference title games. He's been to like 14 conference title games with two separate teams. Five and six in his career. Cause he went to five with the Eagles and he's been to six with the Chiefs. Yeah. So the record is five and six. It's been to 11.

But just the sheer being able to do that in two completely different eras of football is now he kind of got over the hump of winning the Superbowl because that was his big knock. Like, Oh, Andy still hasn't.

I mean, he's pretty super walls with the homes. I feel like he could definitely get in there He's not gonna be fellow

Yeah, and Reed faced Belichick four times, but it was easy when it went four. Mahomes faced Brady twice, but it was easy when it went two. It's sort of like a saying last year. There was no passing of the torch. It was just like, okay, now you're out of the way. Now we can do what we were gonna do. Yeah, so I don't think either one of them will ever... Maybe if Mahomes takes this, Mahomes somehow finds a way to win eight Super Bowls, which if he follows the Tom, or Scumlet, follows the case he's in right now, he won't have a break.

and you probably will hit 8, which is insane to think that it's somewhat probable that it will hit 8 Superballs. It's just, I can love it and hate it at the same time. My dad loves it just because he loves watching. I think that's an old man. They love watching great things happen versus like, no, I want to see the different clients. Horrible franchise. Finally win. It might not be a game. It's a known game. We'll switch it up.

Detroit heartbreak, absolute heartbreak against San Francisco. They blow, they give up, at least seven unanswered points. Just complete mismanagement. Complete, utter mismanagement by Dan Campbell. That is what got them. So, congrats to the San Francisco 49ers. They are not the team of destiny, but I want them to win because they've been here so often, and they just can't get it done. Right? And they put together how many things. And Brock Purdy's got his phone.

out everyone's been like, Purdy's not the guy, Purdy's not the guy. Well, if Purdy's not the guy, I don't know what the definition of the guy is because he got it done when he needed to get done on Sunday. Right. Yeah. There's been so much Brock Purdy hate. Um, I think, I think the concern shouldn't be about Brock Purdy. It should be about the 49ers defense, which has just not looked good. I don't even, I guess, you know, both, uh, he's a great player. I think he had what? 10 sacks?

He's lost 50% of his motivation from the war. Jackson vs. Patrick Lundgren. How do you figure? Well, one is 100% black, the other one is 50%. Oh. What's the reference there? I missed it. There's a very strong and some evidence of Nikkosa being a racist. yeah, okay.

I said it, I said it. You didn't say it. Um, okay, I didn't know that. But he hasn't really, I mean, he led the team to 10. It feels like he's been quiet. He's been very quiet. And it feels like the 49ers secondary, I feel like they've never had a good secondary. They've always been about to pass rushing those fast linebackers. Yeah, I remember when they signed like Richard Sherman. Yeah. And some people were like, oh, this might be the piece. I was like, ah, I got it. Ah, shut up. 10 years ago, yeah. But not.

Well, they got, and they just didn't get, at least in the first half, they got no pressure on Jared. Yeah. They really didn't. They, um, well, and they gave up 182 on the ground too. That, yeah. And again, talk about teams. Why do you stop running the ball? Now I know Detroit fumbled on a run, but boy, Montgomery had 93, between carries Gibbs had 45 on 12. And Jameson Williams had a 42 yard run to get the scoring going. I mean, they were, they were doing great on the ground. The 49ers.

stayed committed to the run. They rushed 33 times and I've already hit five of those. But, um, I think, look, I do think one thing for the 49ers is they've, they had some good mojo this postseason. Think about the IU catch, the one, you know, that, that bats up in the air or whatever, and you kind of had a feeling when that happened that the luck was starting to change, the two comeback wins. During the season, the 49ers, they didn't play a ton of.

games in Philly. Felt like they blew out a lot of teams. They blew out Dallas, they blew out Philly. You know, they blew out a lot of bad teams they played. Well, the storyline was Shanahan and Cohen down five. And now look at them. Two straight games behind them. Yeah, I mean, technically, I guess they weren't tied. They were not. They never trailed in the fourth quarter, but they've had two noticeable deficits. I mean, they weren't down big.

but they had to come back and win late drive and then they had to win you know down 17 last week so um i think that bodes well for them but i've said this before in terms of the super bowl i just think they're a terrible matchup with the chiefs or the chiefs are a terrible matchup for the 49ers yeah going back to the super bowl and going back to the game they had last year and that was garoppolo with games i get it so brock purdy actually

in that game and threw an interception, I gotta look that up. But it was 44 to 23. Breaking news, I'll add in music later. The Baltimore Orioles have been sold to who? To, oh God, I gotta not go look it up. Couple billionaires. Oh yeah. It is Rubenstein, David Rubenstein. It was a, yeah, Orioles owners reached a surprising deal with the franchise, 1.725.

billion but no more Angelo's family so this could be this could just be the moment that the Orioles can turn it around truly. Were they? Was it a surprise? I mean there have been rumors about it but I just didn't know how quickly it was going to come to fruition. Yeah because I feel like normally all those general people you always kind of know they're like oh they're shopping the Baltimore Orioles, they're entertaining offers. I didn't hear anything about that. That's a true tragedy.

private equity billionaires, David Rubenstein and Mike Arruggety. Cause I pronounce it. My dad actually knew Rubenstein a bit growing up. So that's exciting. Um, I know we're away from baseball season, but we got to have some good news, right? Yeah, that's, that's about as good a news. Yeah. Uh, but where were we? We were talking Bosa, right? Yes. We were talking, uh, Nick Bosa. He's, he's been pretty quiet.

Yeah. Well, so if you look at the 49ers stats, you know, I mean, I think I want to say that they're first in the league at Saks, right? But the thing that can be deceiving is, first of all, think about last year. The Eagles, if I'm not mistaken, have a record for Saks. Did they get my homes at all in the Super Bowl? I want to say they didn't. Maybe once, when the Eagles was dealing with the ankle injury. I'd have to look, but the point being is I'm always a little weird.

Larry, teams that great, you can leave the league in sacks. That's tremendous, right? You have a great pass. What happens when you're not just able to get a big year's back and rush the pass? Zero sacks last year. Zero sacks. For the years. Right. They were like 80 or 70 something during the regular season. It was a gross number. It was insane, like they were getting like a game, three a game or something, I don't know.

And so I wonder about that. And I just, I don't know how much I trust that 49ers secondary to hold up. I mean, you know, I just, I am having flashbacks Tyree Kiel got behind the defense, what was it, third and 15? It was, cause it was a big play in that Superbowl. Um, and it was third and 15, it was a 20 to 10 game and they just let Tyree Kiel slip behind the defense and completely turn the game around. And, um, so look, the 49ers, the thing is. There's.

They absolutely were expected to be here. They have gotten close year in and year out. They have, maybe Purdy is the guy, because think about it, this is the third time Super Bowl, this century. Right, they won five in the 80s and 90s. They were five and oh in the Super Bowl. And then they lost with Kaepernick, and then that whole thing, he was gone. They lose with Garoppolo, who, is that surprising? I mean, Garoppolo.

I've never been a fan. I was, I was actually a bigger fan of him coming to Indianapolis. When he was a free agent, I was like, oh man, I want Garoppolo. But then again, I have pretty much just been begging for some semblance of consistency at quarterback. And I was like, Garoppolo is average. That's all I want. It's like I'll take an average quarterback that can move the ball down the field. Yeah. And he's been to a Super Bowl, like Jimmy Garoppolo has been to a Super Bowl, which is crazy.

And I was like, I'll take that. Yeah. I'm trying to remember who the guy who won the Niners was in the 2021 NFC championship game against the Rams that dropped the easiest interception known to man from Stafford and ended up costing him, became a big obstacle in the game. I can't remember who it was. Um, I can't remember. I, but my point is I don't know. It was Jaquis, Jaquiski Tart. I don't know if he's still on the team. I remember the last three.

Oh yeah, he's got a name like Tart. It's usually two T's at the end, right? T-A-R-T-T. Yes, he's a free agent. He's not with the Niners. So look, they had, I don't know, the same issue I have with the Ravens where it's like, I don't, do you trust, I know the Niners did just have a big comeback, but do you trust if they need to throw, if they need to get away from Christian McCaffrey or if they're

Defense can't just get pinned at years back, the left of the pass. Do they have enough to be able to slow down Kansas City? One thing we didn't talk about in the Kansas City game, and this just adds to the frustration of the Ravens fan, to the allure of what the Chiefs are doing. They've got a few big guys out. We've been so used to the Chiefs being completely healthy through the years. They've been lucky with the homes and he played through an injury last year, but he played, Kelsey hasn't been hurt. And at least in the postseason, Chris Jones.

They had a lot of their key guys, but no Joe Tuning. Not sure if he'll be back in the Super Bowl. No Willie Yeh, which I thought, yeah, because he's the spy on Lamar Jackson. So I thought, well, you can exploit that the way that Buffalo kind of did in the run game. And they lost Charles Amenahue during the game, back towards ACL. So he, Amenahue was former 49er and he was third on the team in sacks, despite the fact that he was suspended for.

domestic violence I think the first four or six games Are you played? 11 games and still picked up seven They've had to deal with a few guys being out and yet here they are and You know, I don't know do you feel like the 49ers can beat them do you really feel just feel inevitable But the Chiefs are here again. It's it's the Patrick Yeah

I mean, I feel like this is like the 49ers, they were disrespecting them all year. All year. Eagles, Panteron, you guys, your team just sucked. It's not because Rock Party got hurt last year, right? Right. And they go and the Eagles fall apart, like a major collapse. But the Niners, they get them, right? They win the NFC title. They're like, see, we got you. We were right. Team is

good.

Well, you gotta win this to like, I feel like half of the people will approve them wrong. And they've been, what have they been? Like four out of the last five NFC title games? Yeah. And they're one or now they're two and three in them, but they were one and two. Yeah. Well, and then they went to three. I mean, all the time they were seven and 11 in that round. They showed the graphic during the game. Yeah. I mean, they were, at one point in the franchise, they were five and O at Super Bowl. There was a really funny.

graphic that they did show it was like total NFL, NFC championship games, like playing in total championship games. Lions 7, like 49ers 7-3 or something like that. It sounded really gross. I was like, that's an insult to this guy. Like, you know they brought that up. Yeah. Just to be like, the Lions have a win. Hilarious. The Niners won five Super

So 14 seasons, multiply that, add one. It's been 29 seasons now since they've won one. And when you think of like, oh, historic, great NFL franchises, the Niners are up there because they have five, which trails only the Patriots and Steelers with six. And they both trail Tom Brady with seven. But this feels like, I don't know that their window is closing per se, but in a couple years, a lot of their big guys hit free agency. It never feels like the cheese window's gonna.

as long as Mahomes is there, right? Even in Kelsey, it's... And I worry about it when they want. Because at the beginning of the year, and throughout, and you said this, throughout the entire year, we were both like, it's Patrick Mahomes. Like, I don't care what happens, it does not matter. Right, Houston Astros. They will never... Yeah, the window never closes. As long as Mahomes is there, that window will never close. And we don't talk about the Niners in the same light.

One, they're not as obnoxious. Like they're clearly not as obnoxious. Because the Cowboys, I think the Cowboys have won more recently, right? Technically by one year. By one year. The year after the Niners' last title in 95. Yeah. Yeah, so we don't talk about the Niners, because the Niners are always, like you said, they're always talked about as this passive franchise, historical great franchise. But they haven't won in 29 years, and I'll give you another little storyline. The...

2014 Kansas City Royals had not won in 29 years when they played the San Francisco Giants. Kansas City, yeah I know. The Giants were working on their third title in that dynasty in five years. We're pretty much here with what? What is it? Is this three and five? This would be three and five, yes. So we just, little roles are first here. Baseball, football.

Right. Well, yeah, the Royals had me into the postseason. Yeah, that was a crazy run. Of course, they beat the Orioles on the way. ALCS, Kansas City beats Baltimore. Yeah. Kansas City loses to San Francisco. I didn't even think of that. We were talking about, we actually talked about that 14 and 15 Royals team on Monday's episode. Well, yeah, the 15 Royals team was all but dead in game four of the ALDS. They were down 62 going into the eighth inning of an elimination game. Houston.

Yeah. Cause that was before Houston's run started. That was the first year that Houston made it since I think like over five and like a decade when I really won and they were the nationally. Yeah. And that Royals team, they got second life. They came back and said, you can't kill us. And then they beat the Jays and they that's, um, so with my homes, uh, it feels like, I don't know, part of, part of what happened when I'm watching them throw Tucker's helmet stuff, they're just so intense.

But they're so, and Brady was the same way. Obsessive about winning, obsessed with football. And you have to do that way. Weird stat, present stat, both the Chiefs and 49ers, they played, each team plays five interconference, interconference between the two teams. Oh yeah, yeah. During the year. They both went two and three against the opposing conference. So weird thing, I don't know, the Chiefs lost three games to the NFC this year, the Niners lost three games to the AFCs, the Niners lost to the Ravens, the Bengals.

and the Browns, the Browns, that was when we first lost. They beat the Jaguars and the Steelers and the Chiefs lost to the Lions, the Eagles and Green Bay and beat the crap out of the Bears. And my team- Taylor's first debut. Was it? Oh, that was the week for the Bears. That was when that coordinator was being investigated for- Yeah, they also got robbed, all their farming equipment got robbed. Oh, God. They got $100,000 all week and then-

Travis Kelsey does the, hey babe, you wanna come to my game? Because he knew they were playing the Bears. He's like, I'm gonna fuck up, we're gonna ball out. He just knew. That is the worst feeling in the world too, if you're on the other sideline or on the other dugout, and you see the guys like, yeah, I invited my girl today. And it's like, oh shit, we're gonna get shit pumped today. This is not good. But a lot of years.

You know, what you sometimes, or anyway, sometimes you can look and you look at the two conferences and cause you might see the records, chiefs are 11 and six. I'll go throw out the right ones, chiefs. But sometimes in a given year, one conference is just very superior to the other. And so the one seat in one conference might be actually a lot better than the one seat in the other because, you know, they had a tougher road to get their 12 wins versus, and so I don't know if that's going to play out here because both teams.

actually struggled against the other conference during the regular season. Um, but I would just always feel like the AFC these days is never that good. It's just never as good. And I don't know if it's just because they've allowed these dynasties to just go, cause the NFC hasn't really had a dynastic team since probably the Cowboys and the Niners and maybe the Packers, right? Like there's a lot of change.

Lions in the mix the AFC There's just one of those superior What the mean skill level is a lot Yes, you could hold random Probably around

But again, a lot of times you're pulling the best team. Well, I mean, that is what the playoffs are. The best team plays against the best team in the conference, but you pull a package of home season win every time. Not every time, but probably the majority of the time. It just, all the numbers and all the, everything, and the last time that you went back to a Super Bowl, they got embarrassed by the box. It just feels like there's no way that happens again.

But then again, nothing's ever due at home. I do. Again, I just keep thinking, like, I'm like, oh, well, here's the thing. And you know, the loss of Chiefs four years ago, which weird coincidence the last time I made Chiefs. And I just played the Super Bowl once. And election year, election year, brand new election year. Just before the pandemic started. The Los Angeles Dodgers were also one of the favorites of the World Series that year. Was that still there? 2020? Well, the Super Bowl happened in 2020. It was the 2019.

season. Yeah. But going that way to see the upcoming Major League Baseball season was the Dodgers were Oh, because they got moving bets. Yeah, they traded for bets that season. Yeah. And then also, apparently there's another new opening that's coming out. But there was, I mean, NFL is reusing their script, I think. Maybe the writers strike a little bit of a lazy script writing now. What if the pandemic had hit just a few weeks earlier here?

they've cancelled the Super Bowl. That's what I have to do. I don't think the NFL does that. No matter what. It's the NFL that we've asked them to do. They'll say, yeah, I mean, they'll find out. The NFL, Roger Goodell is all. He does everything. You don't do anything without Roger Goodell. I mean, I think they were more powerful than the New York government when it came to possibly cancelling the game. Yeah,

the Bills game. I feel like that team's going with the snow.

I think Roger McHale said, hell no, you're not moving. And the government was like, okay. What you want? That idea? That's just how bad, it's crazy that the NFL is in power. Oh well, it seems like it is. A lot of times my basis for picking a team to win a series or a game is, who's got the tougher road to get there? And there's a part of me that looks and says, 49ers had the rally to beat the what? The seven-seeded Packers who just beat the two-seeded Lions.

Yeah, and it's not that the Packers Alliance aren't good teams, I mean, Lions won 12 games this year, but then I look at the Chiefs, they just destroyed Miami. And we know Miami's kind of weak, fine, but they go on the road and be Buffalo and Ravens. It's like, oh man, are they going to be intimidated by the... I don't know. I just, I'm just having a hard time visualizing a scenario where Mahomes doesn't pull this out at the end. Whether it's close, it won't be a blowout.

unlikely, but even that wouldn't totally shock me if it was. We won't give the prediction until next week. Right. We're not going to do that. So don't, don't expect any prediction from us. These are not official predictions. We are just narrowing it a little bit. Right. Well, I guess they played in 2022 was first game after they traded for McCaffrey. And it was just a complete clinic by Mahomes at 400, three yards, three touchdowns.

Oh, it was at the Schuster with the big receiver. I mean, what's really strange is the way I understood. Well, I actually only had eight carries that day. That was, yeah, I remember they had a lot of three over there because you just don't learn. Yeah, and Bertie actually came in relief in that game and threw a pick. Yeah. So, and what has changed? You're right. They have more pass rusher in there. Actually, the guy who intercepted Mahomes in that game early.

the Niners had an early 10, nothing lead. Talon Noah who's a fine guy, he's not even playing. He's in the South Fork. He's on IR two months ago. I don't know. But look, the 49ers are... I'm curious in your opinion, now Florida has sports betting

legally. The 49ers are favored in this game.

So for all the things that we can sit here and say that we can't see the Chiefs losing, the San Francisco 49ers are two point favorites. I think opened it two and a half about, I saw this on the DraftKings, but 87% of the bets went to the Chiefs right away. It was, that was a number at least. Yeah. So the line goes down to one. Now it's back up to two. I don't know, but I think there's always a chance.

Well, they know where the bets are going to go. And it's their goal is always 50-50 get the bets. It's not to predict the game or it's literally to get even amounts of money on both sides so that they can make money off the juice. So, and I'm not talking about Kyle Yuscheck, not a juice. Um, his wife got a brand new, the NFL actually, she's been making all the I don't know how long he's been with his wife about 10 years ago. I remember seeing

use check at a Kevin Neal in comedy shows. So we know he has good taste in comedy. He got to know his Mercedes. He was with a beautiful woman that I presume is still the woman he's had. Ten years ago? This was in, yes, in Baltimore in 2014. He came into the league in 2013. I believe they drafted him the year after they won the Superbowl. He's a Harvard guy. Yeah. Use check is an old man by football standards. Yes. He's 32. Yeah. But 2014, 10 years ago.

Yeah, don't remind me. When you said 10 years ago, I was like, oh yeah, like 2009, 2008. Yeah, yeah. That makes me throw up. Yeah, Ustrakh was a fourth rounder, but he's a Harvard guy. He's an underleaguer, smart guy. But anyway, going back to the juice. But look, the odds makers are generally pretty, they don't set lines that are just

I mean, it happens, but the fact that the 49ers are favored and the fact that the 49ers into the postseason is the heavy favorite, like you have to believe that they, of course they have a chance. We're not sitting here saying there's no way the 49ers could win. It just feels so different now. Because maybe a couple of weeks ago, we were like, oh, the Chiefs did not win and they got to get past Baltimore and Buffalo and it's not their year.

It's like now it's like, Oh my God, my home is no, he can't lose. He can't lose. And it's like, Oh, wait a minute. Didn't you just say that about, cause I know we saw them win, but the 49ers eight when they lost three in a row and they're by, they came out at just annihilated Jacksonville. And I remember saying like, they're, they're going to get on a serious roadmap. And they did. They only lost one meaningful game the rest of the year, which was the Ravens. And I, I liked it. You know,

I like their team in terms of the talent, but like, doesn't it feel like you were talking about the those patented teams, they would always play teams that were sexy and had bigger stars like the great Sean. Right. The Randy Moss year, the 16 and O year. Right. They didn't have a ring. They had a moss, which is crazy. And

He didn't, he was with the 49ers in the 2012 Super Bowl. I remember that. So he played in two Super Bowls. Which is weird, I saw that randomly about three years ago. I was like, that doesn't sound right. I don't remember him at all, but I mean, obviously he wasn't Randy Moss that we know and love. Not that Randy Moss. He had a touchdown against the Pats that year, remember. But he never won a ring, but the Pats always seem to be playing these really talented teams, like the 01 Rams. Even the second Rams Super Bowl.

Even Atlanta, when they played Atlanta, Atlanta had steamrolled its way through Seattle and Green Bay to get to the Superbowl. And the Patriots were kind of this more defensive and they didn't have Gronk and 28 to three and you know what happens, it just, it feels like that's what's so scary about the Chiefs. They're not just this like sexy team with big playmakers that you can just punch them in the mouth and then they, they're going to go away, right? Like the Cam Newton Panthers, but like that was the one Superbowl I was like.

I was 100% certain Denver was going to win. Because that, to me, that was what Caroline said. I remember that it just felt like it too. I mean, Dane coming out, you could just kind of feel it. It was like, oh, this is Panther 2, that's a notion. Yeah, yeah. And that was a close game. I mean, it was a close game. It was 44 to 10, yeah. I remember it was, because I mean, I think one of the touchdowns was just putting the game away. Right, right, it was good, yeah. But I remember, like, I think back on that school ball, I'm like, that was a bad game.

I was like, no, I go watch highlights and I watch what goes on. I'm like, no, that was a good game. It was pretty close most of the way. And, and obviously, you know, with his not recovery of making a business decision, as Leon would say, making a business decision. Um, he also said he wants, he said he would take the job in Atlanta if he, if they needed a starting quarterback, which I'm going to be honest, I think,

I think he's not, he's taking any job.

Of course. He can get right now. Yeah. Like, nobody's offering. He's gonna go to them, he's doing the calpening. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But... There's never been a good, a really good Super Bowl where a defensive player was MVP. That's just what I'm thinking. Von Miller was an MVP of that Super Bowl. I think that's the last time that would go anywhere. Yeah, because that would have been a hard one for Newton-Dallarmor. It was, yeah. Well, that was Osweiler, I want to say Osweiler played like half that year or two. Osweiler played a bunch of games at May...

came in relief in the last game of the regular season. I remember that. And they won, and they came back and beat the Chargers. And then in the postseason, Manning just had one great scramble against the big one in the championship game. And otherwise, it was just a lot of efficient passes letting the defense just pin its ears back. I mean, the debt of that defense was incredible. Just a yellow fly zone, you know. Von Miller, DeMarcus Ware.

Keith Haley was tonight. Yeah. And the.

Danny Trevathan, the guys that just stepped up in their big years. But the 49ers, yeah, I do wonder about their ability to be a great defense. It's just, I don't know, nothing. See, the thing is Kansas City's defense is really- They got gassed in the 20th day on the ground. They got gassed again this week on the ground. Yeah. And they've come out on the right side. But

Pacheco is just another breed. I mean, I know Gibbs is good. I know Montgomery is good. I know Dylan.

was, uh, what's his name back there? And Joe was he back? He was back. Um, just Pacheco. And this, I mean, you watch Pacheco run and it's, you feel like he's a crater in the ground and he's just, he's pissed. I mean, anytime there's a crowd around him, it feels like he just courts out and finds his way out. Like they just can't stop him. And, and San Francisco is their clear weakness to me, it feels like the run game, but then again, like they're.

getting gashed all over but they're finding ways to win. They are finding ways to win and if you look at the Ravens game when they lost the 49ers lost with the four picks I mean they put up numbers like McCaffrey was 14 for 103 in that game. Yeah. He had a 39 yard run. Kittle had seven for one 26. We also should mention that Kittle did nothing on

Sunday. Yeah he was absent. He was absent and they put up 34 points so there's like

The only thing of note is, at the end of the game, the camera's on him and he starts, like, the sky cam and he's like, Yeah, I saw that. And his buddy Greg Olson, obviously, in the studio, which, so sad, we're gonna lose him for great. I know, I know. Greg Olson, I mean, he'll hopefully land somewhere and be prominent. Olson needs to go and replace Kirk Harpstreet. Oh my god. Now Michael's too. Cool. I'm still fine with that, though, because he's a legend. Kirk is hot.

Kirk is great at college, he is fantastic, but he almost seems to go through the motions. Yeah, he doesn't seem excited. Yeah, and I mean, I feel like if you can get someone who's excited, I feel like you'll get out of it. Because that's a part of it. You have to be able to bounce the energy off the guy next to you. You know what I mean? When we do these podcasts in person, you can even tell there's a different energy

just when we're in person. And I think when you're...

on when you're calling a football game, he may get into the same thing. And Al Michaels doesn't have the energy, so Kirk doesn't have the energy. And it's just a big feed off, because I feel like Greg Olson can come in there and just feed Al Michaels all that energy that old man needs to get back into it. I think he could have a great year. But don't listen to me. Don't listen to me. No, I mean, I would love if, you know, if the 49ers are gonna win this game.

I feel like they need to run Christian McCaffrey a lot. Cause this guy, he always has big runs during the game. Always is going to have two runs of 20 plus. He is so like, I don't care how tired you are now. You're in your 20th game, about to be in your 20th game this year. I feel like, and clearly, you know, Purdy can be played, put up yards and have good receivers, but they need to get McCaffrey just, he needs to touch ball 30 times in the Super Bowl.

Whether it's combination running, I touched 24 times on Sunday. And, um, you know, obviously having Devo Samuel back is big. This team doesn't lose very often when Devo Samuel plays. They just don't, um, you know, they're not looking at anyone else. You're being out right. Like, especially on the offensive line of Trenton is, right. Right. And we were talking about Tooney maybe filling

out, I'm really gay will play by the Super Bowl.

But Omanahue, that's a really good pass rusher, made a huge play in the championship game. But the 49ers strength in their defense is their front, and really their front's the seven. To me, they gotta have a plan to be able to score on these receivers better. They're just not doing it. Fred Warner, it's great, Greg Greenlaw's great, they can buy off the 20 tackles. But who in that secondary? I mean, I thought they got Logan Ryan.

And that guy won a ring with the Pats. That's a name I haven't heard in a long time. Yeah. That really is. Yeah. That, I mean, Tremere's Ward, one tackle. I, I just, I want to see like Steve Wilkes, we're talking about head coaching camp, the job he did with the defense. Yeah. They got carved up in the first half. Completely destroyed. I made some adjustments. They started getting some pressure on Goff, but if they play defense like they did in the first half against Detroit, they are going to get...

Murdered in this game. We haven't even talked about the whole thing. We gotta talk about how we've seen the game. Yeah, we have to leave, yes. I mean, I don't even know what to say. Uh, heartbreak. I mean, that's, again, that's blind to be able to speak. Um, but just, it just unfathomable, like, a collapse, I feel like, doesn't even define it.

Because, like, the Atlanta Falcons and the Super Bowl was a collapse. Yeah.

They're standing on their two feet, they're strong, and suddenly they're all flat on their face. I mean, this was, there was mismanagement involved. It's like, I can't, I don't really remember a specific moment in that Falcons. Kyle Shanahan was the coordinator for the Falcons. Obviously you could blame the Falcons' play calling and that time, but you really can't point a moment to that. This was just like ineptitude that contributed to a...

Yeah. Just a meltdown. I mean, I think meltdown is more describe a better description of what this is, because it just, is it like, CJ Gardner Johnson waving the fans goodbye in the second quarter. Oh. Like, and they caught it, caught it on national TV, M&M flipping off the fans from the suite. I mean, just how many things were they doing?

It's so hard to describe the amount of pain that I feel for the city of Detroit. Yeah.

Holy shit, I've been a part of the horrible collapse, I've been on the other side, where they come back, 2013 Lava Gaming Institute, and I know both sides, but good lord, I still felt, that might've been the worst I've ever felt about a non-Coltz team, ever. Yeah, again, I think it really changed when they didn't kick the field goal to go up 27-10. That was the fucking problem. Yeah, and that team was gone in the third quarter. It wasn't like chipping away, chipping away.

way, chip in the way they went at the end. It was 17 points, pretty darn quick. I mean, it was a touchdown, off-ball, like that. Yeah, right. It was like, you got the field goal, then the Lions turned it over, then it was a touchdown, fumble, touchdown, punt, field goal, turnover on either of the three, just mistake, touchdown, Lions got their touchdown to cover the spread, and then the Niners were able to run out the clock. So it was just...

It was a collapse. Yes. But what shocked me was just how the Niners were able to flip the switch. And Purdy somehow made these plays with his legs. He had the one, I thought the best play of the day was the one where he got out of the sack, threw it to use check on the sideline. He took it out again. That was the best play. Cause the one down the field was kind of lucky. It bounced. I had great concentration, but Purdy,

that was like a 20 yard switch, you know, like shift.

by not getting the snack, by getting the ball for a first down. I mean, he has shown a knack for coming back and winning. And that's great because he may need to do that on Superbowl Sunday. Just wish we didn't have to wait two weeks for this game. I hate dark week. I know. Oh, especially the silly excuse that they give for the Pro Bowl now. I mean, just what a trap. I mean, Gardner mentioned he was a Pro Bowler. He, they announced him as a Pro Bowl quarterback. Right. And.

I mean, I knew the... The one thing about the NBA All-Star Game, they took away the juice that we were playing for in the NBA All-Star Game, which I hate. Right, I did too. But, you can't fake baseball. You cannot fake baseball. Somebody's gonna pitch to you and you better try and hit that damn ball. Yeah. Like, you can't fake that. You're gonna try and hit a home run. Basketball they can fake. I mean, what they've turned the NBA All-Star Game into is just a joke.

the team captains that they do, terrible joke, the NHL one I think is the best one, but they do like a tournament. Yeah. Which still, I mean, that's those guys seem like they're trying to win. They also do seem like they're trying to win in the NFL. I understand the injury thing, but I would rather have a bunch of guys out there and I at least get to see some guys try and play like try and play and they I love the they would do the same uniform

their helmets. You look at where it's called, it's like when they used to do the All-Star, they would wear their uniforms. Like you would have the Yankees and Red Sox players playing for the same team. Pretty cool. That was awesome. They just rode. I mean, it's just, it's just one of the other, yet another get down there that you can sit here and bitch about for an hour. But it's, first of all, I hated when they made it during this. I like, I still like having something after the Super Bowl.

So that's a nice little advertiser to, you know, or a nice little discoverer, I guess. Yes. And it was in Hawaii. There was something about watching that game. You know, it's like six 30 on a Sunday. It's cold up North. You watching them play out in Hawaii. And it's just, it's lovely. It's lovely. And they're having fun. I understand it's an exhibition, but they used to play that game with some pride. And there were actually some really good Pro Bowls. There was one that was 55 to 52 in Vanderjagt. Mike Vanderjagt missed the field goal, of course, which

and said that he missed the field goal to tie the game against the Pats in the first game of the following season. So he tipped us off like it was going to be a show-card. From what my dad told me at least, he was like really, really good and he missed a big one. He always missed in the postseason. I was at the Dolphins last playoff win, he missed one in overtime that would have won the game. He had the miss, we have a miss in the Pro Bowl if you want to count that. He had the miss that would have tied the game against the Patriots in the opening Thursday night game in the 0-4 season. He had the horrible miss against the Steelers.

in the 05 wild card game. That's the one I think my dad had kind of taught us. Yeah, and some- That was kind of his moment. That was his moment. Over. And some kid that he teaches at a school or something, a kid was taunting him, he allegedly like grabbed the kid. This was years ago, but you know, so he was a jerk. Kid probably deserved it. Maybe, maybe. But let's get back on the alliance. Dan Campbell also said, which I actually,

the way the media reported this.

um, was wrong because I understand what he's saying here. He said, we will never, or this might've been our only shot and people are taught, they're trying to clown him into that. But what he's saying is this is the NFL. Yeah, obviously I would love to get back here next year. I'd love to win this game next year, but you never know. I mean, it's hard to get here as it is. We see how hard it is for a Super Bowl team to have a competent year the very next year. It's very

We haven't seen a repeat champion since Patriots. We're about to. But we actually haven't seen a repeat champion in joining Southampton. So that's really hard to do. And I don't agree with Dan Campbell on a lot of things, but I agree with him. But just, I mean, he's going to have a lot of questions to answer by this offseason. He's not fired. I hope he doesn't get fired. I really hope he doesn't.

even though, because I love his character. Yeah. And he's also, shockingly, one of the biggest analytics guys in the league. I think the Lions and maybe the Rams, like stats the most analytics people in the league, which again, very big shocker. Yeah, somebody made a joke, has Dan Campbell ever seen Moneyball, or read Moneyball? And I was like, does he even watch a movie count? Because then, yes, he does.

I would just love to see Ben Johnson just take the reins from him, man. Like take the reins for a lot of different things. Dan Campbell is a great head coach when it comes to team building. He gets those guys fired up and they, you know, winning that game against Minnesota when they were defeated. They hadn't won a game a couple years ago and then they go out and win that game against Minnesota. Last year they know they're out and they're like, fuck you.

still going

because they left six points on the board. And I mean the run on that last drive. What the fuck? Yeah, so that, I was just looking around because that's the one decision he wants back. The one where they had to burn that timeout. Which is, you're talking about the one, because they would have, even if they didn't get a touchdown, maybe they get a field goal and it's a seven point game. But then they could have onside kicked, maybe they don't get that. They have three timeouts. It would have had the ball back, but when it was two,

That cost him the game. Yeah, that was, that was egregious. That was almost as bad as, um, the, the not kicking the field at a time. The game one better did apparently cash in 70 K because if Jameson Williams is the first and last touchdown and he, he threw, you know, which even that, I mean, you can question whether it was the right decision to go for a touchdown. You're so close though. So I don't know. I was saying in the moment, I was like, you have not gotten this.

twice already. You have left six points on the board at this point in the game. Part of me was like, well, if you left six points, you might as well leave nine, right? Or try and make it nine. But I was like, the rational human being is like, third time is not going to be the charm in this situation. This is the answer to your question. You're not going to leave it up to third time's the charm, which I just want to say. Which obviously they did. But I would have kicked it.

get the on-site gig, and I would have also had my third time. That would have been the big thing. I would have throwed the other. It's almost cruel in a way that that's the decision that worked out for Dan Campbell, was the touchdown that didn't even mean anything in the end. And I think, I mean, that is the play calling style. We'll wrap up here in a few minutes,

but that's the play calling style that you do at the end of the half. When you're saying time doesn't matter,

where we have 40 seconds, we know we can run another play. Let's, and we're also decided we're going for it. Like that's what you do. You say, we're gonna run the ball on third down, short, see if we can get it in the end zone, and we have the players as an option as well. But that end of game when you need the ball back again, that is not what you do, whatsoever. Right. I just, I don't get the thought.

They should have learned something from watching that Texans-Colts game. You throw on fourth down, only bad things seem to be happening. You know, run the ball. I know we were saying the Chiefs went for it on that fourth down. At least they ran it the way the Ravens left them, but you ran it with Pacheco on fourth inches. I don't think there's a better proposition than that. Although, Mahomes always threw to Kelsey, I guess. But most teams run it. Speaking of that, the fourth down and one or two early in the game.

And he was just like, yeah, Kelsey's right there, I'm just going to throw it to him. And Kelsey did what he did. I mean, I want to say it was Kyle Hamilton. Or maybe it was Ben Dogg who was draped all over Kelsey. And Kelsey just... Hamilton was draped all over him for the touchdown. Kelsey was enough to save it all for Golden State Warriors, they just, you know, kind of whatever regular scene you guys have, regular scene, just get in.

Well, I think it looks like the worst that's happened right now is they're calling for, they're like, oh, just tear it down and get the ear. It's like, if you have Steph Curry, I don't care. Like, maybe, if you have Steph Curry, punching people will be a problem. But, you know, besides that, I mean, Steph Curry is Steph Curry. He's found a way, he will always find a way. Yeah, he did it without the ran. He can do it. But anyways, no basketball talk. I don't, I

don't even know that.

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