Best NFL Uniforms, NFL Free Agency & Head Coaching Hires | Episode 143

In this episode, the boys discuss the recent coaching hires in the NFL, including Jim Harbaugh to the Chargers and the potential impact of experienced coaches. They also analyze the free agent market, focusing on quarterbacks like Kirk Cousins and Ryan Tannehill. The conversation delves into potential landing spots for players like Josh Allen and Leonard Williams, as well as the overall quarterback market and its impact on the league. The boys also speculate on the future of Baker Mayfield and the approach Jim Harbaugh might take with the Chargers. The conversation covers potential free agent signings, including Jameis Winston and Gardner Minshew. The Indianapolis Colts' cap space and the importance of keeping core players are discussed. The future of Anthony Richardson and potential landing spots for Jacoby Brissett are explored. The conversation then transitions to favorite NFL uniforms, with various teams and eras mentioned. Best NFL Uniforms, NFL Free Agency & Head Coaching Hires | Episode 143 00:00 Introduction and Coaching Hires 01:16 Favorite New Coach 03:12 Other Coaching Hires 04:38 Coaching Success and Failures 05:36 Physicality in the NFL 06:32 Gerard Mayo's Hiring by the Patriots 07:28 Coaches Moving to College 08:22 Steve Belichick's Coaching Career 09:20 Raheem Morris's Hiring by the Falcons 10:19 Defensive Coordinators as Head Coaches 11:17 Young Coaches in the NFL 12:15 Potential Free Agent Signings 13:11 Kirk Cousins's Future 14:11 Ryan Tannehill's Potential Landing Spots 19:22 Leonard Williams's Potential Re-Signing with the Giants 20:19 Buffalo Bills' Defensive Priorities 21:42 Jim Harbaugh's Approach with the Chargers 24:32 The Uncertain Future of Kirk Cousins 25:31 The Potential Fit of Ryan Tannehill with the Raiders 26:00 The Importance of Leonard Williams for the Seahawks 28:43 Jim Harbaugh's Strategy for the Chargers 29:10 The Potential Departure of Josh Allen from the Jaguars 30:08 The Chargers' Need for a Reset 31:36 The Potential Fit of Josh Allen with the Bills 33:06 The Chargers' Need for a David Dombrowski-like Approach 35:18 The Chargers' Dilemma with Aging Players 36:40 The Potential Departure of Michael Thomas from the Saints 37:40 Quarterback Options in Free Agency 38:35 The Importance of Locker Room Presence 39:05 Potential Landing Spots for Quarterbacks 40:07 The Indianapolis Colts' Cap Space 41:02 The Importance of Keeping Key Players 41:32 Anthony Richardson's Potential in Indianapolis 42:00 Other Potential Free Agent Targets 42:30 The Excitement for the Indianapolis Colts' Future 43:27 Backup Quarterback Options for Other Teams 44:25 Potential Landing Spots for Jacoby Brissett 45:24 Unconventional Free Agent Options 46:20 Running Back Market 46:50 Potential Landing Spots for Saquon Barkley 47:32 Potential Landing Spots for Quarterbacks 48:01 Denver Broncos' Quarterback Situation 49:21 Pittsburgh Steelers' Quarterback Options 50:21 Houston Texans' Cap Space and Quarterback Situation 51:16 Kenny Pickett's Future with the Pittsburgh Steelers 52:09 Denver Broncos' Potential Free Agency Moves 53:09 New Orleans Saints' Potential Free Agency Moves 54:55 Favorite NFL Uniforms Checkout our website! chaoticallyintolerant.com Blog: https://chaoticallyintolerant.com/blog Catch Summer Smash Here: https://chaoticallyintolerant.com/summer-smash All Updates on Tecmo Bowl: https://chaoticallyintolerant.com/tecmo-bowl Meet the personalities of Chaotically Intolerant: https://chaoticallyintolerant.com/personalities Meet the Hall of Famers: https://chaoticallyintolerant.com/hall-of-fame

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All right, welcome back episode 143 of Chaotically and Toler. I think this is probably gonna be the final football episode, probably for about a month. We're gonna go back into baseball. But yeah, we're gonna do what? Free agency coaches and then we're gonna do a uniform draft. Be a good bookend to the end of the official end of the NFL season for us. But we do have a possible big guest coming. We're not gonna say who yet, but.

possible for around draft time or right after the combine draft time somewhere in that area but we're gonna cover the free agents today and Yeah, the the draft will be at the end of the episode. So Let's just let's jump into it. I guess I want to talk coaching first Who who is that who is your favorite coach I guess to get hired?

Oh, favorite new coach? Yeah, favorite new coach. God, so what do we have? Dan Quinn. Which is meh to me. That is so good. Well, I mean, I'm happy for Mike McDonald, obviously. Yeah. Ravens, you know, getting some, it's bad for the Ravens, but probably good for Seattle. Panthers hired Dave Kamales. And of course, Brian Callahan in Tennessee is around Mayo, but the biggest name is Jim Harbaugh. Yeah. I would think that's gotta be, I mean, I'm, I'm...

happy to see the Chargers doing something even if it's not on the field necessarily bringing back a coach that has a winning pedigree because look he did win i mean he was only in the league what four years the Niners was 11 through 14 right and three of those years the 49ers went from pretty much anonymity i don't think they made the postseason since 2002 and then Harbaugh comes in he was 44 -19 -1.

as a head coach in the NFL. Four years, yeah, 11 through 14. So he immediately turned them around, got them to overtime in the NFC Championship game this first year. I think that's got to be the best one. I the Chargers, it's always been about culture there. It's always just been there. There hasn't been enough accountability, lack of just a winning attitude. Hiring Harbaugh, not only is he a good coach, but it signifies that we're willing to bring in a guy that

can elevate you now, of course now the front office has good players on the field, but now the players have to step up. So I think that's the best one. I think Dan Quinn quietly is a good move too, because for all the 80 gets about 20 to three, he did take the Falcons to the Super Bowl to hit on a successful. Listen, he had a 25 point lead in the Super Bowl. Against a really good New England. That's all we have to say. He had a 25 point lead in the Super Bowl. That's it. Nobody remembers what happened after that. Kyle Shanahan probably. Yeah.

I really honestly, I really like the Dave Canales hire for the Panthers. I go back and forth on it because it feels like they might be trying to do that quarterback whisper thing that they did with Frank Reich, but Dave Canales has a, like the past two seasons, he has a proven track record of Geno Smith and Baker Mayfield reviving their careers when they were basically dead. And you could say the media is saying that Bryce Young is already dead one year into his career.

So I really like the hire. I thought that was one of the best ones the Titans hiring Brian Callahan In firing my fray little stupid, but he's a yes, man. I think that's all it is. He sees he's a yes, man. That's That was my least favorite Departure of a coach was my fray. Well, I don't get that at all. It's something screwy going on with ownership there The Panthers have had good some good fortune as far as their worst seasons. They've always been able to turn around

one and 15, you one, two years later than the Super Bowl. They were two and 14. They brought in Ron Rivera. I think three years later, they were division champs. They got a bye. And then, you know, a couple years after that, the Super Bowl. So maybe, maybe it's just, you know, and the bar is set really low. You come into a two and 15 team where your owner is making negative headlines. I mean, and you don't have the, you don't even have the number one, you don't have first round pick. You don't have a first round pick, which.

Stinks but at least there's no first -round pick to blow it on. Yeah, you're only gonna blow it with the guy who was somebody else's first round. Yeah Antonio Pierce was the the no -brainer. I think that's the no -brainer. That's not I guess that is technically a new coach, but it's it's just renewing Yeah, I mean, it's hard to like sit to praise them for a good because it's like how do you not? I mean they do on the Adams and Max Crosby were gonna request a treat if they did

Yeah, that was that was the rumor. Well, I think they should have learned their lesson with Rich Versace. Yeah, because they they had a great run to get to the playoffs. 21 after the group was let go and then this horrible debacle with Josh McDaniels. Yeah. And I have an interim coach that does really well. Beats the Chiefs. He gets the and playing hard and you're going to go after the next shiny toy. I don't think so. And Chiefs and Chiefs fans are getting upset because he said they're going to. What was it? They're going to do the the Jordan rule.

with Patrick Mahomes. So they're just going to try and beat the shit out of Patrick Mahomes. And Chiefs fans are like, oh, you can't, you can't say that. I was like, as long as you're not doing the Sean, um, yeah, oh my God, what the hell is his name? Um, Peyton, Sean Peyton, the Sean Peyton route of that, like the blueprint, I think that's fine. Like as long as you're not deliberately hurting someone, roughing up a quarterback a little bit, that's, oh, it's perfectly fine. It's the game and part of the Raiders and the

Bill Belichick against the Rams in O -1, I mean, that whole game plan was about hitting and hitting hard. Maybe occasionally hitting late in plays that probably today would be called penalties, but you have to be physical in the NFL. You do. You have to intimidate your opponents. Yeah. And then speaking of Belichick, obviously they leave or he leaves January 11th and Rod Mayo, which was again, they wasted no time. One day.

was the official time from parting ways to new hire. Um, Gerard Mayo, former Patriot, uh, wanna, and he went to super bowl. He did win a super bowl with them. He was on IR. I think it was his last year in 2014. I want to say 20, it says 2015, although I don't know what they're counting. He was the trans. Yeah. Well, maybe he played, but he wanted, he did win a ring in 14. But Mayo was the.

like handpicked, that's what everyone said. It was the handpicked by Belichick saying, take this guy, this is my, like, I'm telling you, I'm giving you the keys basically. Yeah. Which is, if I told you that five years ago, I don't know if it would be shocking that Belichick would be leaving the Patriots five years ago because of his age. I don't know if that would be a shock, but if it was Gerard Mayo, I feel like that would be a little bit of like, huh? Like, you know, Phil O 'Brien and Josh McDaniel's there.

Well, how are you handing the keys to draw mail? All right. Or your son, Steve Belichick, who I think he landed a job in college. A lot of coaches are going to college. Bill O 'Brien going to Boston college. You're saying Stephen Belichick went to college. Yeah. New coach. Defensive coordinator for the University of Washington. Yeah. Wow.

runner ups. There's, there's a lot of former coordinators and just coaches in general going over to college, which is odd to me. I don't know why. I mean, like it's still the NFL and if anything, it's getting harder for coaches in college because of the NIL stuff, but maybe they're more used to dealing with money as NFL coaches. I don't know. Very odd to me, but, um,

Well, Steve Belichick, you heard him talk, he sounds just like his father. It's scary. That tongue, that tongue, he's... The tongue, like... He's good with a tongue. I'll tell you that. Steve Belichick, confirmed, probably good with a tongue. Let's see, Dave Knaut, Raheem Morris with the Atlanta Falcons. I mean, Arthur Smith, how do you not hire him? And then Raheem Morris, which I feel like, again, Belichick had a second meeting with them. It was like, this is guaranteed. And then...

I mean, he's nowhere to be seen now. It's defensive. Again, another defensive minded head coach. They were looking at two defensive minded head coaches, which is again, on. Was Reggie Morris, he was a coordinator previously with Atlanta, right? He's, he's coached in that organization before, I think. Let's see. I want to say that he has coached. He was Atlanta Interim's head coach. Right. He was, he was on the staff when they went to the Superbowl with.

Dan Quinn, who's got higher roots, I'm Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's weird. Like, Morris is, he's a new hire, but he's not a new coach. You know, we think like a lot of these guys have never coached before. Callahan and Mayo, obviously Harbaugh has, and Quinn has, but sometimes it's like more exciting when you get a guy who's never been a head coach before, because there are these preconceived notions like, well, we have Raheem Morris, but I think about when he was with the Bucks, and they didn't do that well. And you're like,

So it's easy to judge hire sometimes based on previous roles, especially, and I want to say if it ended badly, it usually does end badly. It's pretty rare guys like why once I'm leaving, give me my next job. It's usually, well, we had a couple rough years or management and I didn't get along. And so I think that I think that's like the Todd Bowles effect. I feel like that is the number one thing everyone thinks about Todd Bowles with. Like they think about his tenure with Jets.

when he was in New England and that was a disaster like Gino Smith got punched in the face I think when I want to say he got punched in the face. Not by Todd Bowles. No it was like a wide receiver or something. I can't remember who it was. Mike McDonald as well. You know a lot about Mike McDonald. Is this I mean is this good is it what do you think? Yeah. For Seattle. I think so I think that's an exciting one. I think.

a defensive mind aggressive coach. Seattle needs to go defense because they're they they're still in the shadow of the Legion of Boone. So I think that it kind of makes sense that they would go with a more defensive minded head coach to try to bring some of that back. They're pretty young defensive team. So I think that's a good hire. Yeah, I do. I think you know, look, it's 36 year old guy. But it's like a thing now. Remember when Gruden was like one of the first

kind of young coaches in late nineties and it was kind of like, oh, and then, and now we're just seeing it like all the time. Yeah. There's coaches that are younger than players on the team. And, um, you know, I mean, like McDonald worked his way up. He did a great job for a while with the Ravens. They spent a year at Michigan. And, um, so he's not, you know, he's not just, he's young, but he's experienced as a coach. And that's the thing. A lot of these coaches are young, but they start right away.

And they move up fast. So I think he does a great hire. Good for the Ravens, but it's good for Seattle. Mike McDonald also is now adding to the, hold on, what is it? It's the Mike and then MC last name and then Mike McCarthy, Mike McCoy. Yeah. And then there's another, I want to say Dan is the other one. No, it's not that. Let me look that up because there's a Venn diagram.

of names in the NFL head coaches. Let me find this here. In the meantime, I will say this. It's interesting. Maybe it makes sense. Pete Carroll had been coaching the Seahawks for like 14 years. He was there as a coach. So you replace this legendary guy and it's like you have Gerard Mayo, who's never coached, never been a head coach replacing Hilde Eliche. So maybe it's.

Maybe that's by design maybe not as opposed to saying like we're gonna go from bill Belichick and we're gonna bring in like Mike It's real. I think it's really hard to do that. Like how are you gonna follow up? Bill Belichick, I think he was the perfect guy Because you're never going to it's like bringing in a the next head coach for Alabama, right? No matter what you do. They're gonna say but saving right saving did this but it's so it's easier for a young coach probably Yeah, so in my first year, you know Belichick's first year five eleven

Pete Carroll's first year, that was the year they were seven and nine, but they won a playoff game. Yeah, but still it was under 500. It is the Mike, Sean, and Mick Venn diagram. So Mike and Sean, big circle. Sean McVeigh, Sean McDermott, and then Sean Payton. Right. And then you have Mike McDonald, Mike Tomlin, Mike, wait, Mike McDonald, M -A -C, not M -C. Yeah. And then Mike Tomlin, and then you have Mike McCarthy.

and Mike McDonald. We also had Mike McCoy coach the Chargers earlier this day, or in the 2010s. He's a quarterback coach now. He's an offensive coach. I thought that was going to be in there too. This is just active. This is all just active. There are six, there are seven head coaches that are in Yeah, he's a quarterback coach to Jaguars now, Mike McCoy. So not doing a very good job. But you know, I mean, right, right. And he was head coach for four years for the Chargers. My uncle likes to say he's a Chargers fan.

was at Chargers University four years in, you're out. You're out. And then the, uh, I think we did talk, we touched a little bit on, uh, Dan Quinn, but I find that just to be kind of boring, I guess, just kind of, it's, it's not like an ex, it's not a sexy hire that I expected from Josh Harris and the new ownership. Do you think maybe there's a part of the ownership or a front office that was like, but it's cool to say we took the Cowboys defensive.

coordinator who you know, they're good. You ripped them apart last year. Yeah, both sides of the ball was like, okay, now we, you know, we didn't get Michael Parsons, but we got you know, your your puppet master. And again, I think it's I think it's a good hire because Dan Quinn, he was on that. Air cell info. That's not the right word. He was like in the, you know,

On the bench in the on deck circle there for a while seeming like he was gonna get a head coaching job heck We thought Eric the enemy would be a slam dunk. He went just took a job. Oh see college. Yeah, so Of course they also you think about all these coaches who they're in a way they're penalized for their teams being so good because the hiring cycle like ends while Like Steve Spagnolo. Yeah, I mean he had a terrible run as a head coach with the Rams, but how was he not? I mean you talking about?

like an elite Hall of Fame level coordinator who's just an extension didn't even bother to. And maybe there's a genius to that because some coaches are just much better suited to be coordinators. They're just not head coaches. They're just great at calling plays, calling schemes. Spagnolo might just be one of those guys. I used to think Mike Martis was like, I mean, he was decent. He got them to a Super Bowl, but he was just much better suited to be a play caller. Yeah, I think a part of that is I don't really believe in...

I don't think there's a lot of head coaches that should be play callers. Like you should not, basically you should not be focusing on one. That means you're not focusing on 66 % of the team. Right. That means you're giving, if you're an offensive, offensive minded head coach, you're giving all of your, or most of your attention to the 33%. You're giving it to the offense. The defense is going to lack and you have to rely on the defensive coordinator and your special teams are going to lack. You're going to rely on a special teams coordinator. I feel like you.

have to give that up and that's really difficult for a lot of guys. They have the egos. Yeah. And but I think that's really necessary to succeed. And obviously there's plenty of successful coaches out there that call plays like that's not out of the question whatsoever. Right. But I think we're seeing it more and more with especially young coaches who are really not willing to give that stuff like Mike McDonald. You mean Mike McDaniel? McDaniel. McDaniel. McDaniel.

I mean my, all the mix, all of it's mixed up in my head. Mike McDaniel, Sean McDermott, Sean McVay, Mike McDonnell, Mike McCartney, Mike McCoy, it just never ends. But you could say that with him. I mean, how many fucking screens are they? Oh, and those fades on the goal line, you go for it on like fourth and goal to six. In the Dallas game, I think was one of them. They're just, I mean, that's why.

That's why I just personified the Dolphins. They're just trying to do way too much. Yeah. It's that Miami chicken shit. Hey, he looks good. You know, he's got the cool style, but is that what we're here for? It's weird to be a tough -minded team in the game. Yeah. That's why I think Belichick should be their defensive coordinator. And I know the Dolphins just released Zavian Howard, but Jalen Ramsey had a quote.

about Vic Fangio saying basically he fucked that up, that they could have been something, like that secondary could have been really good if it wasn't for Vic Fangio. Which is, Vic Fangio, not a bump. Not at all. I think Jalen Ramsey's kind of a bum. He seems like a guy who can either be really great or really awesome. I don't know if he just mails it in or if he's just, I kind of remember he went off on it.

some players here yet he had some attitude from the jacksonville and i think there was an issue in in florida state to me was great for state use obvious it's what it got him driving was first up it right reminds me is that the defense of version of stephan dix it will break right guys charismatic guys but the indomitable sue i mean he was a little different since dirty player yet they're all very intelligent guys who just thought they were about everything yeah they're speaking of the bill shaw mcdermott

Yes, Sean McDermott McDermott. Yeah also said the bill like it's not a matter of if it's a matter of when we win the Super Bowl which first Mark Marv Levy the head coach of the bills. I'm sure he said that with Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas Oh, I'm sure like at some point. He said that like maybe even in private meetings. He was like, it's not a matter of if it's a matter of what like Marley knows he had one great quote his depth

Depth is great, so you have to use it. Martin Levy quote. Still alive, by the way, almost 100 years old. I found words for Martin Levy. He still looks great. I'd say he looks great. He's still with it. I think they had a lunch or something to honor him. Yes, he's 98 years old, still living. Good for him. Yeah. But him, I think McDermott saying that I was like, when I thought about it, I was like, yes, I guess technically odds wise, at some point, the Buffalo Bills have to win the Super Bowl.

This should have whether it's a hundred and fifty years from now when the NFL is playing with robots and You know, whatever like technically yes, but I think as long as Patrick Mahomes is there I don't care who you have that team as a mental block they do that just Cannot get past that red and white this was their year. Well, this was a year But the good I we were saying before about the salary cap going up. I think the bills could benefit from this

They were really even tighter than the Chiefs were. They've already restructured one of the linemen's contract. I think their team that they need to get tons of defense. Like defense, they need to become like a like a legion of boom kind of defense. They're never going to get past Kansas City. Yeah, they just feel like they're never able to get that big stop. You know, like when that drive when the Chiefs are driving to win the game, right? And you're sitting on third and three, you're thinking, okay, you are fourth and three. You got to get a stop. Right. Have to get a stop here.

And every single time like there's no stopping anyone trying to pick up some late fourth down to win the game, right? It's just impossible. Well, and then the von Miller signing hasn't really panned out for them. He's kind of a backup now. Well, and then he had he's had that issue with the I don't even know what it was. I don't know what happened with it, but it was a domestic abuse thing in midseason and he was still playing. I'm not sure what actually happened with that, but I'm.

I don't think that's done yet. I think it's still going to be going to some sort of court. So they could be in need of another pass. Well, yeah, I mean, I think boy, wouldn't it be something if Chris Jones hits the market. I mean, I think that's like they need to do something like that was like almost like when the Colts got Ben and Terry. Yeah, that wasn't a huge thing. But it was like we got one of your weapons. Yeah. You know what mean? I feel like the bills need to get it was an energy changer.

Yeah, well, get Townsend. Commander Jett, well, sure, yeah, he had an injured punter last year, right, Martin? Yeah. But I'm talking about like a splat. You go out and get a Snead or Chris Jones and put some big money there and and that's a two player swing, right? The Chiefs would lose that guy and you would get him. Yeah. I feel like that's the only way Buffalo's getting over the hump. Yeah. Or someone takes out Kansas City for them in the playoffs.

Yeah, or like Mahomes gets hurt, like, you know, that's how Big Ben got to his super. Well, anyway, he avoided the Patriots. Yeah. I mean, I think Josh Allen is the Big Ben of this generation, right? Because they're doing all these comparisons. Yeah, I don't know. Jackson and Allen and even, I mean, they're, I'd have to think about it. They're almost more like the Philip Rivers at this point. I,

Cause you gotta win. Well, I mean, I know that from a plane, not a physical or anything, but just you're talking about a guy that's been good and any good and good and good and just cannot get over that hump. That was like a Phillip Rivers. I felt like, you know, almost, I can almost say an Andrew Luck. I mean, we didn't see, we didn't really get to see enough, but yeah, I mean, they never, I mean, those Colts teams, like, well, somebody was talking about, um, maybe I did talk about this last week, but they were talking about the lions. Oh, they're gonna.

They're going to get back there. They're going to get back there. And then somebody posted something about, Oh, well, these teams said they're going to get back there and they never got back. And yeah, the 2014 Colts, they post, I was like, that, that team had a, that team was a middle of the rank defense with one of the worst schedules in the league. Like one of the easiest schedules in the league. I was like, everyone and their mother knew they weren't, they weren't getting back there unless some major changes were made. We just played, we played a Broncos team.

that was meh that year and then right in between their Super Bowl years. Yeah, pretty much. And then what was the other one? I can't remember. The bagels. And I think yeah, that was like, that was a bad bangles. They were they were shitty. They were like a wild card team that kind of snuck in when I think that I think Dalton may have been hurt or somebody was out. They had a big injury or something was injured in the air. So and then they got to New England and it was in New England. Just survived the Ravens. And so it was like, yeah, there was no chance. It was going in there.

But to flight gate. I mean, we got actually we just we won a Super Bowl for Tom Brady. That's we just gave him the motivation to win a Super Bowl. Let's go into free agents. So the top one on my list right now, we have to go quarterback because it's quarterback league. Kirk Cousins is I mean, what is he going to get? He's going to get with this new because that is remotely predict money. I Jack is supposed to quote reset the quarterback market with 60 million dollars a year.

That's what they're saying. Kirk has just made his living. He's made an insane amount of money doing, I mean, he played great this year, he played great last year, but overall, pretty average football in the scheme of things. And he's made like 200, $300 million off of that. A lot of coal's cash. I don't want to be such a hater of Kirk Cousins, but he's 36 years old. First of all, so what are you going to get out of him at this point?

Well, he's the one -year -deal merchant. He'll get a $35 million one -year deal. Like a poor man's Rogers situation where maybe there's a team that feels like, I don't know, I have to think about this. Who's right there but needs a quarterback? But you're never really right there if you don't have a quarterback. I don't know, who could I see signing him besides Minnesota? Vegas? I know. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. But he doesn't look right. There's just something not right about Kirk.

And like that. He's a nice guy in the rain. He's supposed to be a bunch of assholes. Yeah. Yeah. He's not going to be an insurance policy for somebody at this point. I mean, he's not. He still has. He's still a starter. It's I mean, I've heard possibly the Giants, depending on what goes on with that Daniel Jones situation. New New England. I mean, he I think he would fit perfectly. That just just his look. He's a nice guy.

That's kind of what you need and veteran quarterback for a head coach. Yeah. Kind of studied the ship. Yeah. Um, I mean maybe Seattle too, possibly whatever is going to happen with Gino. I don't know what they're going to do. It's not a free agent. Is he free agent? Gino Stone? I don't think he is. But I mean, they could, they could say we might, I mean, how much did they sign? I think they gave them a contract extension. Yeah. Only Gino Stone is a free agent. Not Gino Stone. Gino Stone.

I like Gino's dog. I hope the Ravens can re -sign him. Hold on, what was Gino's contract?

Let's see. So yeah, he's owed 12 .7 million. 2025 cap is 38 and a half million, which is big. That's really big. Yeah.

can't be right. No, that is right. Holy shit. Yeah, he has a potential out after 2024. But I mean, are they satisfied with his play? In Seattle, especially a new head coach, he might want to come in and just wash everything away. And Kirk Cousins is right there. Yeah, yeah, that actually makes sense. When you put it that way. I mean, the Bucks if Baker leaves, if Baker and I love Baker to the 49ers.

I love him. He's done Proc. I know they're not going to do it because especially because they don't have to pay. They're not going to pay Brock. Yeah, I mean, it's very cheap, but like it's hard to say that. I mean, it wasn't Brock's fault. They didn't win the Super Bowl. Obviously he didn't lose them that game. He didn't win them, but he didn't lose them that game. But can you imagine just Baker gripping and ripping it with all those weapons? George Kittle.

Steve O 'Samuel, Christian McCaffrey, Brandon Iuke. I mean, that would be... Well, I don't think Brandon Iuke's coming back. You don't think he's coming back? He seems pretty ticked off with the Niners. Really? I know his girlfriend or his wife was going on his Instagram story, but I really don't trust what the family members say. I could see cousins maybe even going to Chicago. Hold down the fort for Caleb Williams or something.

although they're gonna settle i mean but i don't know that's not the worst thing in the world long set the first his first year rogers said he was first on the second place it's not brady said here not that that was the end what they had but will pop over was the only first round or number one pick right out of all those he was over one day overall pick with the other one rogers yeah right rogers is late yeah and also swinefield something you know i mean you know office for you

start of the season. He didn't start week one, he started to look week three. Yeah, so yeah, probably not. But you're right, Palmer was the number one overall pick, but he didn't play a snap that whole first year. Yeah. Ryan Tannehill. I want to talk a little bit about Ryan Tannehill. I weirdly, it kind of makes sense to see him in a Raider uniform. I don't know why, but they might bring him in as a backup.

And I feel like eventually he will get into a game. Like I can, we're sitting here week eight and they're like, okay, like, you know, uh, Kirk cousins went down like Ryan Tannehill was coming into the game and he'll win. He'll win that game. And then we'll think he's back and he's not. But I, I mean, he's, he's back up all the way for me. There's yeah, there's the oldest free agent right now is 38. That's Kalais Campbell, former Raven, Jaguar, Falcon.

And there's three free agents that are 36. Tanhill's one of them, Cousins and Brandon Graham. There's no way that Tanhill's getting a starter's job off the bat. But you know what? He could be a guy that could benefit from a change of scenery where maybe he has to start a few games. And the Raiders, sure, why not? Leonard Williams in Seattle. I feel like, I mean, you have to try and re -sign him if you're Seattle.

I think, I mean, you want, you have to bring him back because especially you're trying to build a more defensive culture anyways, and you're in the shadow of the Legion of boom. And I always think if you're a new head coach, I always think you build up those trenches before anything else. You go out and get offensive linemen and defensive linemen before you worry about, and you can get a quarterback, but you're going to ruin them. Like the Bengals already have with injuries and, you know, I mean, people are already saying Burrow is going to be the next Andrew Luck.

Yeah, I'd be sad if that's Really sad. Yeah. I really, I mean, Buffalo. Buffalo can go get them. I think that would be a really big pickup for them. It seems like Buffalo has guys on the defensive line. It seems like their problem is more, I mean, yes, it is on the line, but it's the linebacking core and a lot of young guys. They have so many injuries too. And why is it some teams just have so many injuries and some, like the Chiefs have...

I had hardly any like the whole year and the bills were down to like fourth stringers by the playoffs. I mean that and that's a big difference. But yeah, Buffalo should prioritize guys who could get after the quarterback. Pair him with an Ed Oliver example. Yeah. Yeah. I mean if Buffalo is going to have some cap room with this new improved salary cap, that's not a bad fit. There's so many teams that could use a good defensive line. Almost. I mean you could even say Kansas City if they lose. Well sure if they lose.

I don't think that's gonna happen. I just can't see it. The thing is when you're one of those dynasty teams, people just don't want to leave. And then it becomes, it's not that it's unfair, but it just becomes a disadvantage for everyone else. Because who's going to want to leave the Chiefs? Sneed, he wants to stay there. Sometimes they don't have a choice, but. I don't know if Sneed, I mean, obviously, again, whoever they're going to want to stay there, but I don't know if Sneed, he's kind of talking like he might, he's gone. Like it seems like he's gone.

his franchise numbers eighteen or something's much more doable and then maybe they incentivize me to get a long -term deal but if they do franchise him it means they can't franchise Jones and then Jones is probably I mean then they're gonna have to work out a long -term deal which they definitely could and I still think they'll somehow end up getting both of those guys back which is gonna be not good for the rest of the league right now can't catch up but speaking of edge rushers other edge rushers how about Josh Allen not

quarterback, but the Jaguars. He's really good.

I don't know why I feel like weirdly enough, I feel like he's gonna go NFC. I think he's gonna wanna get out of there. Because I feel like there is an emotional thing when it comes to teams that kind of fall apart like Jacksonville really did. And I'm sure that's really frustrating. And he might just wanna get out of there completely hard reset when it comes to that.

I Jacksonville has to try and keep him. I mean, obviously they're going to try. Walker and Allen, I mean, they got to, if they're going to be serious about building this young core. But yeah, maybe he wants out. Just looking at Greg Rosenthal's top 101 free agents this year, and he's got Josh Allen ranked third, just ahead of Christian Wilkins, who had a really good year. Although he had a dumb.

Albeit unfair roughing the passer call on the homes of the playoffs, but he had a really good season. Again, D lineman, right? Maybe the Bills just go out and steal them from a division rival. Yeah. Why not? What about?

I don't know, how much do you really think that Harbaugh is gonna try and do in his first season? Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh, yeah. What do you mean? How much do you think? I mean, cause I feel like that it's getting, a lot of their guys are really getting up there. Like you look at Keenan Allen, you look at Cleo, Cleo Max there, right? Yeah. He's been jumping, he jumped around a lot. He's getting up in age.

I feel like he might try and do kind of a reset. Maybe, yeah, maybe similar to what the Pats did when Belichick came in. He had some core guys there, like Bruce Gee and Ty Law, but for the most part, he had some aging veterans that they had to kind of clear the deck. They got a lot of bargain basement guys that kind of turned them around to win it, no one. I think that's how the Chargers are going to have to approach this. Yeah, I don't think they have a ton of cap room. They have...

They think they have their franchise quarterback. I don't know. I can never tell with the Chargers because I don't know if anybody can resuscitate that franchise. But I think they got to clear a lot of that. Those older guys, Keenan Allen can't be back. I think why even keep a Khalil Mack? You can clear some cap plays. They need to prioritize the draft, see if they can get draft capital for these guys. I don't know, though. But then again, I'm thinking they brought in Jim Harbaugh. They probably didn't bring in Jim Harbaugh to do a full.

reset, you know what I mean? Because the Jim Harbaugh move feels like more of a win now kind of thing. But the Chargers are not set up for that now, so I don't really get where they're going to go. Yeah, I feel like they might try and do the Rams model a little bit, where they're going to go out and sell the farm. Or basically be Dave Nembrowsky.

You're saying pillage everything. Go all in to try to win with what they have. Because why would, I mean, or they, you know, you go out and make a lot of trades. You go out and just get rid of those old guys, get rid of everything, get as many good guys as you possibly can. I mean, that's what David Ambrose did. He pillaged the Red Sox farm system. He pillaged the Tigers farm system, which he didn't win a title with Detroit, but did with the Red Sox. And then obviously it all fell apart. And then he got the Phillies.

Was he there in 2022? Or no, did he come in the year after, but he's still... No, he came in like... He's been there a while, I think. Not to get too into baseball yet. to go off the topic, but I He's been there a long time. He went there, I think maybe took a year off. Oh no, he's been with the Phillies when they went to the World Series. So yeah, so he's... Right. And Marlins, one of those. Anyway. Yeah, the Chargers... Nah, I don't think they can pull the Rams. That's what they have.

I don't know. Not sell everything? No, no. They'd have to spend a ton of money in free agency. Yeah. Emmanuel Ogba from Miami. I feel like Miami really can't afford to lose anything on defense. No. Right now. I mean, they really can't. They have to resign everything. They got to go and obviously they did just release Davion Howard, but I mean, you can't lose much.

Because that's that was already kind of your issue Defense I mean defense like your offense was not your problem this year, right? Although to a was Some would say he was the problem, but we don't know that You know the last rank he is top 101 101 is Michael Thomas The last rank free agent. Yeah. Well according to Greg Rosenthal his top 101 Michael really? Yeah he's bit I mean he's

his nickname slant boy. So that's cause that's all he runs. He's not completely. Yeah. I mean, he's not a million years old, but I what else? I mean, what else? I can't imagine he's going to get anything big. Talked about Minshew last week, giving Tyron Taylor's out there solid backup. Probably not much more. Micahide interesting name. How about Janus Winston?

I love it. I want the NFL needs James Winston, just like it needs a Gardner Mentschew or a Fitzpatrick. That's true. That's a problem. But I think the, you talk to anybody, like, especially when they did that, whatever the hell it was, you know, they did the kneel down and then he handed it off. Like everyone came to his defense. So he's clearly a locker room guy. He's clearly someone that a lot of guys in the locker room really like.

So, when talk about that last game against the job. Yeah, yeah. When Arthur Smith threw a tantrum over it. Right, right. Because he knew his job was gone. So he was like, I'm going to scream as much as I can. But I feel like you need guys like that. And, well, I he's a former number one overall pick. He's, I think you would look to a younger quarterback for that. Yeah. Yeah. And he could probably stand to be a mentor as much as somebody could stand to learn from him. Yeah. So.

I feel like, I mean, you could, I really don't want to say Houston because you had Davis Mills there who very intelligent went to Stanford. So I trust any Stanford quarterback, Andrew Luck, John Elway. I mean, if, if Minshew goes, why not? Why not Indianapolis? Right. Why not? You could say Chicago too. Chicago's gonna need a backup. If they go and, if they go and get Caleb Williams. Yeah. They're not going to keep fields. Fields will go.

Maybe I'm like in Washington. They're gonna draft some of them, but they commit to they bring him in I don't know. Maybe that doesn't make sense that You got a couple Colts guys on the market Kenny Moore Grover stored Yeah, Grover store big in the run stopping. I mean unless black men are a lot of free agents on defense for the Colts Yeah, they have a lot. I would really like oh Stefan Gilmore is a free agent again Mmm, he's kind of he's getting up there

feel like they really need to keep that core and Kenny Moore is a part of that core. This is, they're going into a weird time because the Colts are top five in cap space this year. And we say that every single year. We say that every single goddamn year. Chris Ballard says, you know, we have, we have 70 something million cap space. We can, we can be as aggressive as we want. And then he goes out and gets three linebackers, uh, like back, like third string linebackers, a couple of like,

shitty wide receivers, a backup quarterback, and maybe like a second string safety. He's like, these are really high character guys. Like, it's like, no, we have to go and get some guys. Like you have to go out and get some starters, but you have to take care of the hometown guys first. And Grover Stewart is a massive anchor in the run game for us. Like he is, and our line is very good if we actually blitz. Like if we, I think our get home rate.

is really, really like, it's like top of the league. Yeah. You have to keep Grover Stewart. You have to keep Kenny Moore. He had a really big bounce back year this year because he sucked. He was horrible in 2022. Um, but he really had a big year this year. Um, I think Blackman, he's younger, so you have to keep him. I mean, it's again, like you have to, I'm assuming they're going to let guys go and it's hard to say you're going to let guys go, but I feel like you have to keep those guys. Pittman.

It's happening. I think he'll take a hometown discount from what I'm hearing. He's got a farm there. He loves Indianapolis, whenever you talk about it, and he loves Anthony Richardson. Any guy that talks about Anthony Richardson in that locker room is only positive things. They say they love his work ethic. They love just everything about him. And it's a weird situation because you have all this cap space and Richardson is young.

It's he's almost a little too young. It's like we don't want this now. I would rather be he takes his licks now, obviously be safe with them. Don't get hurt. But you kind of want him to know what losing is like at this point. Right. Because a lot of guys like they know what losing is like. And then they're like, OK, now we know like I'm going to learn how to win now. Yeah. It's it's really weird. I hope I really hope they go out and get everything they I hope they got the cash. They sell out.

Yeah, I really do. Not just because of, oh, it's exciting. I mean, you went nine and eight with Gardner -Minshew. You almost made the playoffs with Gardner -Minshew as your starting quarterback. Alec Pierce, I'm not really sure what they're going to do with him. Josh Downs is going to be the number two or three guy, depending on what happens. If we can go out and sign a big name wide receiver. I know Mike Evans is out there.

OBJ is out there, but I just don't know if he's... He might be a little too old, I think, to go out and get Curtis Samuels there. I don't know. He's out there. A lot of Ravens defensive guys hitting the market. Matt Aboge, hopefully, though. I mean, it sounds like they'll franchise tag him. Patrick Queen on the market. By the way, good, solid backup quarterback. I like Jacoby Brissette. Always liked him. I love him.

He, uh, if he didn't hurt his knee against Cleveland in 2019, the Colts would have gone to the playoffs. Remember seeing Jacoby Percett play basketball in high school, Dwyer high school in West Palm beach. I think he's a heck of an athlete. I like him and he's capable. I he, absolutely. He is, he, I mean, he doesn't, he won't make too many mistakes. I think you can't ask too much of them. I think that's any backup quarterback. You really can't ask too much of them.

But he seems like a big locker room guy too. Andrew Luck, in the very, very, very small amount of times he's gotten to talk about him, he only has positive things to say. And Jacoby says the exact same thing. They had a great relationship. I mean, having a veteran guy in the locker room, even for Anthony Richardson, for some of these young guys, you could say, I don't think it would go back to Washington. I can't imagine, right?

You never know, I mean, new OC, new culture there. I think, if anything, Sam Howell will be kept around his back. Yeah, because he's, yeah. You just got, I think you really, you got to think about those young guys. Yeah. Who's Dallas' backup? Is it? Cooper Rush. Is it Cooper Rush? I don't he is. I mean, Carolina. You could say Carolina for Jacoby. They need a veteran backup. Yeah.

Here's a free agent that I haven't heard this guy's name forever cordell patterson Cordero patterson cordero patterson cordell patterson, whatever and mitch trubisky recent free agent just got cut. I mean, I don't Go you can go to the ufl united football league But cordero patterson and it's a big place for the pats with anyway, is there one year? Yeah Yeah, I mean

He's probably he's a big guy. I remember they played him at running back even though he was a receiver. Well, I remember he did the he did the flip flop. He was or he kind of did both. He was a wide receiver and running back at the same time. And he's been a great return man. Yeah. Gasecki free agent tight end. I mean, I'm kind of going deep into the list here because I don't want to cover just just the top guys. I feel like that's a little boring. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I think we're talking about Snead, Jalen Johnson, where he gets a big contract in cornerbacks. I was hoping we would. The Volta of trade Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I mean, you could talk running. Henry and Barclay. I that's the biggest, that is the biggest market right now. You're going to have Henry, Barclay and Pollard out there, which Pollard, he's one of the guys that like, they, they talked him up. They talked him up as.

the backup and then they put him in that visit, they put all the pressure on him and it seems like he kind of folded. Like Deuce Vaughn, I feel like was funny to watch, hilarious to watch, but like I would have loved to see him run more than Tony Pollard this year. Tony Pollard looked like he had no energy when he ran the Who was the other guy? Who was their backup? It wasn't Deuce Vaughn, Deuce Vaughn was the third stringer. It was...

because he had a pretty big year, fantasy -wise.

I'm John Boynard too.

Um, it was doubt not doubt. Oh, I don't know who that is. Yeah, that was doubt. Terp. No, it was. I thought it was Kavante Terp and, oh, no, no, he's the wide receiver. They had a Rob Robert. Sure. Kavante Kavante Terp and was the guy from the USFL.

who they ended up signing and he's a great punt returner. I don't remember who the second stringer was Rico Dowdle does not sound right. I'll say that. But Saquon, I mean, where do we think Saquon's gonna land? Because he can't get a lot of money from somebody. Somebody who's desperate for running back. Somebody they want to flip. You can see him going to the Raiders.

Because if Jacobs leaves, yeah. Yeah. Let's see that. What about a Buffalo or something? Buffalo? Yeah. I mean, they're in the market for a big running. I mean, they need like another explosive on that offense. They do. Because they don't have it at the receiver position. I like James Crip, but he's not like a game changer kind of a. Yeah. So I mean, I know Alexander Madison had a good year.

But I could see maybe Minnesota goes out and gets someone when they have this year of Jefferson left and who knows what quarterback they're going to get. I feel like if they go out and get a quarterback or maybe they re -sign Kirk Cousins, then they'll definitely sign a running back. Yeah. Cause they might be saying, you know, this is we're somewhat all in kind of all in, um, as all in as passively all in as you can be. Yeah. Um,

Maybe, no, not Detroit. I was about to say Detroit, but I was like, Detroit needs to expand. I think these teams that are close, we got close last year, or been close, we said Buffalo, Detroit, I think they need to get rid of that dream for them, if they can get like a luxurious sleep. They had some secondary issues. What about Chicago?

well they you didn't have space they get the number one thing drafts that get potentially more track at the company that they can get someone to fields uh... you can get a veteran running back in their gets a safe one you get a josh jacobs you know there can read i feel a little too old i think you're kind of pushing it there uh... henry feels like he's gonna have a one more good year and somebody big is inside yet there they're gonna sign and they're gonna squeeze every last drop

out of Henry. I could see, I mean, Buffalo, you mentioned Buffalo, but again, they need more of an explosive back and Henry just didn't have the explosiveness that we're used to out of him. I mean, he's still rushing for a thousand, he still was second in the league in rushing yards. Could you see St. Croix going across town playing for the Jets? They already have Breece Hall. I know, but he's had some injuries and maybe the Jets feel like the team, they just need to make a splash, keep their fans dreaming. I don't know.

Keep dreaming of getting the Riders back. We would talk about the Jets, but I don't even want to talk about the Jets. They are just depressing. Yeah, so sad. Houston is a team that has some cap space and is a young team that might be ready to take a big next step. I know Jonathan Greenard is a free agent. They need to bring it back.

I think boy, how nice would it be for CJ Stroud if he can get a big play running back to help balance things out. I wouldn't count on Houston, especially trying to poach Henry from Tennessee, the division. Now, what about Pittsburgh? Because I do want to talk about them because they're in a tough spot right now. What are you going to do with Kenny Pickett? Yeah. Mason Rudolph is a free agent too. Right. And he's gone. I mean, Rudolph, say what you want. He...

led them down the stretch like they made the playoffs with him at quarterback. So I'm not, I think I'm telling you, I think Gardner Minshew that's that perfectly in Pittsburgh, the long hair coming out of the back. I can see it. I can want to be Paula Mollard because I don't think they can go out and get someone who's so much better that they can't justify him being a backup. I think they need someone who who's like right on Pickett's level. That's going to push him. Yeah. And who can step in and get them a spot. Cause it doesn't feel like they're ready to make like to give up on Pickett.

It's only gonna be his third year. Yeah, it's a little premature. Still, I think he gave him at least one more year. So I think someone like a mint shoe, I don't even think a percent. I think a mint shoe, well, maybe a percent. But yeah, I don't think you can go big with a quarterback, but I think you could try to get him a big play receiver. I think you can try to get him a big, I think the Steelers are going to make, they're not traditionally like a big time free agent team.

kind of green bay and they they they get their guys see if they get their guys but i think this might be one of those times of its for me to say that we got a we got a few claim makers in there there's one more team on top of that and then we'll move toward draft we can fly to the draft uh... denver they are only a quarterbacks issue their quarterback situation and they're running back situation and jerry judy isn't state

Who do they have a wide receiver? I mean, that's really worth it. Yeah, I'm coiling Sutton. And they have the new owners, the Walmart owners. Oh, right, right, right. So, I mean, they could be looking to spend some money. You have brand new head or real. I mean, honestly, it feels like last year was Sean Payton trying to reset as much as he can. And this is going to be the really like we're resetting it here.

maybe they're gonna, I think they might have a big free agency. They might go out and get some guys. Kirk Cousins could be one of those guys. Um, you could see like maybe an inter division Josh Jacobs goes over there. Yeah. Yeah. That they need to get some kind of, I think their line is, their line is similar too. Yeah.

right now they've got Stinham listed as their number one quarterback. I would maybe say, I would say they would hold off on a quarterback. And cause this is a bit, I mean, this is probably one of the biggest running back classes in recent memory. I would say maybe they go out and get a running back or even a big receiver. Do you go after Mike Evans or? I just, I really think Evans is going to stay. I think they're going to work that out because he wants to, he wants to be a.

buck for life, which who would want to be the buck for life? That's so sad, but yeah. Um, but it is, I'm curious to see what Denver does with that quarterback situation. They cut Wilson and then they ride instead of they, they gotta bring somebody else in. If they get rid of Wilson, Tannahill. Yeah. Even a brisette Tannahill or brisette feel like they really fit. Yeah. To me, just, just their looks like.

A lot of times I go up my stupid sports brain where I'm like, he looks like he'd be good in that. What colors look right? Like Kirk Cousins doesn't look right in silver. Minshew. I think Minshew is a stealer. Minshew looks right in yellow and black. He looks perfect. Cause I always felt he looked a little weird in the Jacksonville. In that Jacksonville color. Sure. Minshew in Denver could be an interesting one too. And speaking of uniforms, we're going to do our uniform draft.

I'm going to forfeit the first pick to you. You can, I'm going to give you the one one here. Let me just, well, I, I'm a very visual guy. I want to be looking at all of your ones. I'm not, I'm not missing anything. Um, see NFL has Adam rank at the ugliest uniforms. He actually put the, so this is our favorite. This is not the best. This is just what you.

love the most. I know what I don't like. They were like the Steelers Bumblebee ones. Oh, I love the Steelers. I was in talks with those those like really bright green ones that they wore on like primetime games. It was just nauseating. Oh, yeah. Well, the Nike lime green or whatever. What was it? The Nike the color rush. Every team had those ugly ones. Yeah, yeah. Like the mustard. Who had the mustard uniform? Jacksonville. Jacksonville. Yeah.

I think it was like maybe Cleveland and Jacksonville played a Thursday night game because they would only wear them on Thursday night. Tennessee and Jacksonville. That was a Henry's hundred yard or 99 yard. Yeah. That sounds about right. So how does this work? So you do one, I do one, you do one. It's just alternating. Are we going with best? No, your favorite. Favorite of all time. Yeah. I really like the Chargers powder blue.

But the earlier, not the, they went a little sleeker in like the late 2000s and now it's more, now it has that alternate look that they use it as like their main one. I'm thinking like early 2000s, the ones that really looked like the old AFL charger. The Lance Alworth Chargers Powder Blues are my favorite. Okay. I'm gonna go with my all time.

Favorite uniform like this. I don't think I think almost of this is all of sports the Houston Oilers Just there's something about that Houston Oilers. Yeah. Yeah, the the blue and red I don't know why the Titans are the Tennessee Titans just go to the Tennessee Oilers I think they did it for one year when they made the move I think they were the Tennessee Oilers for one year and then they rebranded the whole thing which the Clippers just rebranded

I like the Clippers Rebran. But I'm going Houston Oilers. Those things are gorgeous. Just, I mean, the powder blue, whatever. I think they have like a home and away, the powder blue ones. Yeah.

that you can't go wrong with powder blue. I mean, the Phillies powder blue, the Royals, I think they have a powder blue as well. The Cardinals, the St. Louis Cardinals, those like 70s, 80s, they're awesome.

So do you get to pick again then? Yes, I do. I'm going to go.

I hate like because I hate just going all throwbacks like throwback throwback throwback. It feels a little easy but The Pat the Patriot the I do like the red those red Patriot the the one where The Pats beat the Titans like 59 to yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, whatever they wore then those are 2009 that was the AFL celebration. Yeah

Yeah, I'm going and this is traditional I've always loved the Carolina Panthers road uniforms Now there's some teal in it, but it's there's just though It's just white and black just enough teal to keep you kind of like okay This is it just always look really sleek and I associate it with that 2003 team that I love the loan and Steve Smith and So I'm going Carolina Panthers original OG road uniforms

Let's see here. I'm just trying to the let me see the black with the teal trim. Yeah. On them. Yeah. Not those gross pure teal alternates that they started wearing in like the mid 2000s. Not even the home jersey which is black with the I like just the white with the teal trim on the shoulders. Oh, the white jersey white shirt. Yes. Let me see. I'm just trying to

Make sure I get it right Just enough color, just enough hint of subtlety.

All right, do I get to go, do I get another one? Yeah. Cause I'm staying late night on early 2000. I like when the St. Louis Rams upgraded from those gold ones that they wear now as the throwbacks to the ones that they wore with the greatest show on turf in 2000. I started wearing them in 2000 after they won their first Superbowl. I don't know why. I don't know if it's just cause I associated with that era that the greatest show on turf era, but like. The gold, the golden blue. Yes. The gold, well.

Look up like 2001 Rams. And if you just look at the images, the uniforms they wore that year as their home jerseys. And I'm in the road jerseys too. So it's like the, it's not the yellow gold. It's more of a mustard. It's like dark. They had the road uniforms. Well, the home uniforms were the dark blue, gold trim, gold numbers. And then they would wear gold pants. Um, and then the road uniforms were the white, dark blue numbers.

Just gold trim on the shoulders and like dark blue sleeves with the then they I think they upgraded the Ram Horn to gold it was more of a yellow color when like they were wearing them when they won it in 99 I don't know why I just I again I think it was just cool because I I don't love football and domes, but I kind of like watching them in the dome Yeah, you know that high -flying team I'm gonna my next one. So number my third pick

I'm gonna go with the Dolphins throwback the green jerseys. Not the orange. The green with the orange numbers on the shoulder. So they wear them as throwbacks now. Oh, the teal. You're talking about... Oh, the more... Yeah. Was that the one they were wearing when they did the Miami Miracle? Yes. Yeah. But out with that...

that day was all the it's all teal I don't know that the Dolphins have too much teal if anything I would like the Dolphins low uniforms but even that has too much too much aquamarine going on yeah I'm looking at these ugly ass not the orange shirt green it's whatever I mean it's like what Dante Culpepper for I was at the game in 2004 when the Dolphins famously upset the Patriots on Monday Night Football

Of course I left before they came back and won. But they were wearing those orange throwbacks that year. And those were kind of cool. They had, they would bust those out like once a year on prime time. Orange Dolphins alternates. Um, yeah, I'm going, is that teal or green? I don't know. I think the one you're about is more green. Look at here. You can kind of tell here. Yeah. Those. And it has, so it has like, it's a white lettering and then an orange back or a, yeah, orange background on the nut.

Right. It's gorgeous to me.

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And then I want to throw in like a simple, simple one. I'm going to go with like those. They're so ugly, but they're gorgeous. Also the 49ers, like mid 2000s. So.

Yeah, it's kind of like almost red. Yeah, it's it was just I want to say it was like right before Alex Smith like the mid 2000s. It's like red with that that again like that mustardy gold. But they changed the letter that the numbering almost looked more like the Arizona card was with jerseys. I'm looking at one here like the early 2000s. Let me see. Owens.

Let me that might be what I'm thinking of. Yeah, I'm thinking of that one. Yeah, it almost looks like honestly it almost looks like a box jersey Yeah, a little bit a little bit like what they maybe not what they wear now. Maybe it is what they were now I'm trying to think about bucksters, you know, I hate the bucks uniforms. I like the current 49ers uniforms Yeah, the current 49ers uniforms are ugly too. Yeah I'm gonna give you one. No, you're up. Okay, I like the I

traditional because now they don't wear it now they were the orange is the home jersey. I like the bronco blue dark the blue home jerseys that they started wearing in 97 because they've changed from the orange crush after 96 they lost in the postseason they changed to the new dark blue jerseys and they won two super bowls but then they changed those I think the year Peyton Manning got there I think they started wearing the orange as their primary and the yeah alternate jersey so if you look at like early 2000s broncos you know

last year, of course the last year at Mile High was 2000. I just like the blue with the orange trim. I don't know why. I just like it. It just fits with the stadium and they kind of play in like, you know, in the mountains. I don't it just looks right. It looks right. It was the early 2000s. Early 2000s and I think I'm looking at a picture of Brian Greasy here. It looks like the, I can't tell if it's an optical illusion, but the orange trim with the jersey actually comes down and continues into the pants.

Oh it does! It's really cool. I never noticed that. That does. That absolutely does. 2001 Broncos, they were rocking the orange pants. Oh, no, white pants with the orange trim. Interesting. And I liked the Broncos road jerseys at that time too. I still like them. I think there's something about subtlety that's... I think the Broncos have to bring back the unicorn. Whatever, whatever, the white helmet with the big D. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That has to be brought back.

I just think that's so much better. Something about Dent, like the blue, maybe, oh no, I'm looking at it right now. It's the blue helmet with the orange stripe down the middle and then the white kind of outline on the orange stripe. But then it's blue all on the sides and then it's the orange D. Yeah, there's something, to me, there's something about that. That's just, cause I always think of like, with the new ones, for some reason, Brock Osweiler always comes to mind when I see them. Yeah.

uh... uh... i'm sure i think if there's any plus seeing l a and that looks weird yeah it does not look right here at the saints were these uh... retro gold units two thousand two and i feel like they may have brought him back since but they had a couple games in two thousand two and water yes they were they were uh... you get two thousand two new york saints they had a game where it was a great color rush tears i like the right

Yeah, but they had it was like a light gold and it was just all through it was just like black numbers I know exactly what you're talking about then they also had that year. They also wore another type of throwback that year and I'm looking at it on their website if you go ahead New Orleans States where it was like black with like the thicker gold numbers and yeah

Yellowish pants it was kind of don't know wait. It's a golden white Stripes on the side or on the sleeves, right? Yeah, I know the pants and I'll tell you that 2002 Saint sidebar one of the weirdest teams in NFL history They'd be every great team that year and lost all the horrible things fascinating team I actually think I did a draft America article in that few years back about I don't feel ever see an like an anomaly like that

one team that could beat every great team, swept the box, won the Super Bowl, and they lost to like the 2 -14 Bengals, 3 -13 Lions. So it fits that they wore all these different uniforms because they were so Jekyll and Hyde. Yeah. Alright, you got one more. I got one more? Yeah. Uh, oof. Um...

You know what? I'm going to do it because they brought it back this year. The Seahawks. Did I steal that from you? I was, I was really thinking. Yeah. I mean, the kingdom Seahawks jerseys with like the green or the blue green. Um, God bless them for bringing that back this year. I mean, fans, I liked when they, I didn't mind when they, Chris Berman used to say it was like, they look like CFL uniforms when they changed it in 2002. I think it was. Yeah. And now it's, it's, it's, it's.

they've changed that look again. But I love those John Kitna early, you know, late 90s, kingdom Seahawks jerseys. Since there's no more, I'm just going to mention a few, just like my own mentions. The Eagles throwbacks are the Kelly Green. Those are good, but they had one in 07 when they wore a

Oh, yeah, I love those two like those are those are so ugly it's like, you know, it comes back around I mean the Raiders are very classic but The road uniforms Raiders this one that was a silver ones. Well, it's you know, I'm saying like Super Bowl Raiders more recently. Okay. No, I know Latin this year's a different number via the bumblebee ones for the Steelers

The Packers when they looked like they were wearing no pants. Yeah, I was those like tan. Those are hilarious to me I love those the Vikings throwbacks are Gorgeous that like it's it's not it's not very different, but it's just enough where it's like yeah This is really sick Don't look at the 96 Ravens. Look at the numbers on their jersey. It was so Cartoonish I was I have to mention the Ravens at some point. Those are hilarious purples. Oh

classic but if you look at that Ray Lewis that the jerseys look insane it just looks so weird it looks like someone like it was like animation there was another really weird Ravens jersey well they wore black pants which was really purple with black pants they had one they had one it was like with the Maryland flag on it or something I can't remember what it was there was it was either a jersey it was a weird placement for the flag or something I can't I'm looking at gold pants

with the purple jersey, which is hilarious. Just ugly and I adore ugly uniforms too. Like they're just so funny to me. I would rather see a ridiculously ugly uniform than something that's just so boring. Like the Colts are boring. They are so boring. Some people say it's classic. It's fucking boring. They always do the throwback against the Steelers with the Colt on the back.

like the two Colts logos on the back and nothing on the side and then they have like the three stripes. Nothing unique. There's nothing unique about it. The Steelers, I think they've had a couple cool throwback ones. Cincinnati, they're kind of eh. The helmet is cool. I like the helmet with the stripes, the tiger stripes. They have an orange alternate mid 2000s which is kind of cool.

The Lions are mad, they're pretty boring, like the Chiefs haven't changed really. No, the Browns have, but everything looks weird. Give me the classic 2003 when they wore the orange pants with the white jerseys. I like that. But the one, and I'm wrestling with these two, it's either the 90s Bills with the red helmet and the blue bill, or the Giants, the 90s Giants.

Not the current ones with the energy not the red. Um, giants. It was like oh five. No, no, no. I'm just talking about nineties. Um, giants. Let me see here. Yeah. The one they brought him back, I think this year it has the giants and script. It's whatever Lawrence Taylor wore. Right. I'm wrestling with those two, but I'm going cause I've done a lot of blue. Well, I've actually gone back and forth on this.

I'm gonna go with the blue because I've done two red and one blue. I'm gonna go with the Giants with the Giants script on it. Just very classic. Very just, it just screams 1990s, 1980s really to me. Whatever, whatever.

Giants yeah, they're I thought they were they're doing new ones again this year. I think are they I want they were announcing Uniforms and we're gonna wrap up in a minute here. Yeah coming in April. They're doing new uniforms They just did new ones not long ago. I feel like whatever they did was like two years ago

Anyway, they're, nah, they're okay. All right, well, that's it. We're wrap it up. I think there's a few, there's a few cool new articles that have come out on Keanu -Clean and Tonic, so go check that. Keanu -Cleanandtonic .com, some baseball stuff. We're gonna be ramping up the baseball. I think we're gonna be doing some vlogs from maybe some different spring training games. We're gonna try and coordinate that. And yeah, that's all, and we will see you on Monday.